Talk:Brian Burke (ice hockey)

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Re-creation of Maple Leafs President[edit]

Perhaps we should point out, the position of President of the Toronto Maple Leafs was re-created, for Burke. The post had been abolished since it was stripped from Ken Dryden. -- GoodDay (talk) 00:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the personal section the death of his son should be mentioned with the annotation that the death instantly put the scandalous loss by the maple leafs against the new jersey devils in its place and empasized the triviality of sport and the drama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.114.216.255 (talk) 06:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As an (ex-)Whalers fan, I was surprised to see his departure from the Whalers described as a firing. He was a very popular GM during his brief tenure with the team, and the reaction to his leaving for the NHL position was disappointment. Sure enough, the New York Times backs me up, referring to him as the sitting Whalers GM. -- Dbls (talk) 18:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In future[edit]

Can we PLEASE wait until the team's official website posts a firing or hiring, etc etc? beforing making additions and/or deletions? GoodDay (talk) 18:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the highly unlikely event that the existing media sources turn out to all be wrong, then we can correct the article quite easily at that time to reflect the actual content of the announcement — so no, once multiple reliable media sources have gone ahead with the same story we are not required to wait for the team's official announcement (especially since it's only minutes away anyway, and since your act of reversion undid several other necessary edits, including referencing cleanup and a major WP:BLP issue, that I should not have had to reapply manually.) If bloggers were breaking the story but real media were still holding back for confirmation, then we'd have to wait for a reliable source to show up — but once the Globe and the Star and the Sun and the CBC and TSN and Sportsnet have all gone ahead with the story already, there's no benefit to us in continuing to wait for the Leafs' own press conference. Rather, we can quite legitimately go ahead with what the reliable sources say, and then undo that in the unlikely event that they turn out to be wrong. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bias[edit]

There is a clear and obvious bias in this article. The section on criticism, especially where Ron Wilson is mentioned is unwarranted and unprofessional. As I understand it Wikipedia should list factual details of history and response by others within the article without editorialization of the article itself. This section reads more like remarks from an angry Leafs fan than of an unbiased individual. It seems more like an essay proving Burke is a hypocrite or a liar rather than stating simply something to the effect of "Brian Burke offered Ron Wilson a contract extension worth X amount. A short time later, after mounting losses, Brian Burke released Ron Wilson as head coach."

Extra slant is not needed.--Jeffware87 (talk) 03:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was covered in the media, and there was backlash - to which he had to respond to the press about it. There's a slant in that it's critical of him, but it's a criticism section and the media was critical of this even and that's historic fact.--Львівське (говорити) 07:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not naming the reporter[edit]

My reason for not naming the reporter is that it's irrelevant to the reason for Burke's lawsuit. Naming her only serves to spread the rumour and add to the damage. Wikipedia is not a blog or a tabloid. BashBrannigan (talk) 05:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia reports on reliable sources and her name was mentioned in the lawsuit and in the media --Львівське (говорити) 05:10, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing alone doesn't justify use in Wikipedia. Newspapers have responsibility to include all content even if that spreads false rumours. Wikipedia doesn't serve the same function as a newspaper. The effects on living persons takes precedence when naming that person isn't crucial. The rumour is false and damaging to the reporter and we should not include it. BashBrannigan (talk) 05:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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