Talk:Brijmohan Lall Munjal

A fact from Brijmohan Lall Munjal appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 September 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Brijmohan Lall Munjal grew Hero Cycles from a parts manufacturer into the world's largest bicycle company?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brijmohan Lall Munjal.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Brijmohan Lall Munjal (left) receiving the Padma Bhushan award

... ~~that Padma Bhushan award recipient Brijmohan Lall Munjal (pictured), who was a migrant from Pakistan to India, founded Hero MotoCorp?~~

Created by Batamore (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing. DTM (talk) 01:48, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article was shifted from draftspace to mainspace on 30 July 2021. It was self-nominated on 7 August 2021. This is past the 7 day cut-off criteria. It is long enough, however the intro could do with some expansion.
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Please use single label such as "Authors list" or "Agency" for PTI

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India.com citation needs formatting, first name/last name labels and "India News, Breaking News" can be removed

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The image licensing is alright. The hook could be made more interesting. However as this article doesn't meet the 7 day criteria, nor the 5X expansion criteria. I guess this should be closed here. Batamore, Titodutta— tagging nominator and a contributor to see what they have to say. DTM (talk) 02:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DTM, the nominator was, as best I can determine, only a day late with their nomination (seven days from July 30 would have been August 6), and we typically allow a few days flex in the lateness criterion with a first-time nominator. (Quite a few experienced nominators are forgiven for being a day late.) The article will need further work, as some of the sources do not back up the article's statements. I've done some editing, but I don't know enough about Munjal to do a thorough job; perhaps Titodutta can help clarify the various points and fix anything that I may have misunderstood. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset and DiplomatTesterMan: I second BlueMoonset. A day late, especially given the "not exactly" rule, shouldn't sink the nomination. See if the nominator is willing to make the necessary adjustments within a reasonable amount of time–if not, then reject the hook. I'd say not yet. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:18, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course, accordingly updating hook status symbol. With the date aspect past us, only the remaining issues need to be dealt with, including the failed verification tags. DTM (talk) 06:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article is looking better. Earwig's Copyvio Detector comes out alright. The basic issues have been taken care of as per DYK criteria. QPQ not required. I had written above that the hook could be made more interesting. Here is a suggestion — rather than just write "founded Hero MotoCorp", the hook could say "founded one of the largest two-wheeler manufacturers in the world". However, this is not mentioned in the article so it would need to be added with a source. This is just a random example. ~~If we have no better hooks, ALT0 can be used.~~ DTM (talk) 14:24, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article does mention "Hero Cycles was entered in the Guinness Book as the world's largest bicycle company." So there is a source. If the hook is becoming too long "Padma Bhushan award recipient" can be removed. Also, considering that the article uses the phrase "undivided India" and that he migrated in "1944", is it correct to say he was a migrant from "Pakistan"?

In short, the hook needs some looking into. DTM (talk) 14:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per DTM's comments, here is a new hook: Joofjoof (talk) 05:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Brijmohan Lall Munjal grew Hero Cycles from a parts manufacturer to the world's largest bicycle company? Source:[1]

I will strike ALT0 for clarity. ALT1 looks and reads much better. The hook content is present in the article and referenced. I request that, in principle, the final reviewer checks ALT1. While the image is properly licensed, I don't think it goes with the new hook, and can be left out. Thank you everyone for creating and sorting out the article. DTM (talk) 09:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 to T:DYK/P5 without image