Talk:British Rail Class 203

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The article is not in WP style. For example it does not start in standard style. Much verbiage can be cut with no loss of content. It seems to be the field of a reversion battle (apparently involving two sets of unsourced details). That DB975025 is now an inspection saloon is not mentioned.--SilasW (talk) 07:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

u r rong! its not a sloon! it was ternd into a buble car @ laira depoh!!! its not fare 2 say fings about tranes wen u dont no its rite! an, its an edit war not a versiun batle!!!! get ur facts rite! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.91.97 (talk) 01:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Ex-Buffet Car 60750, renumbered as RDB975386 since it arrived at the Railway Technical Centre in the mid to late 70s, was named 'Laboratory 4 Hastings' during its time with the RTC. It was 'discovered' by RTC staff while being used as a paint store at Micheldever Sidings and was taken to the RTC and converted for use as the first APT-P suspension and tilt system test vehicle. The bogies were the first two H4X types which incorporated the air sprung secondary suspension and tilting bolster for the APT-P non-articulated trailer bogies, although the design wasn't exactly the same as the APT-P's BT 12 bogies. The centre portion of Lab 4 was converted as a VIP compartment with 8 extremely comfortable seats, air conditioning, double glazing and carpets that extended half way up the walls to enable BR staff to experience the anticipated ride quality of the APT-P. The 'A' end housed the Mk III tilt hydraulic pack, air compressor for the air springs and associated electrical equipment but the 'B' end wasn't a 'classroom' as quoted on the main page, it was a small mobile laboratory with instrumentation, data storage and display equipment and could also house the APD's Redcor computer when required.

When the APT-P tests were completed Lab 4 was used for other suspension tests, including active secondary suspension work using individual motor-pump units over each air spring, the hydraulic tilt pack having been removed although the horizontal tilt jacks themselves remained in place, but being prevented from any movement by solid struts mounted on the opposing side of the bogies.

No work was undertaken while Lab 4 was at Hastings Diesels, but the coach suffered considerable corrosion at that time as it was located on a track right alongside the sea wall. When ownership was transferred to the Hastings 60750 Group and re-located to the Walthamstow Pump House Museum some restoration work was undertaken although the corroded areas still remained a problem. When it was transferred yet again to the ownership of the APT-E Conservation and Support Group, and located at the ERM Coventry, some conservation work has been carried out, although only to a limited extent currently. The centre section of the VIP compartment had now been painted into the original RTC Red/Blue colour scheme to show how the vehicle will eventually look when restoration is complete.

I don't need to quote my sources as I was there most of the time, being the Tilt System Development Engineer for Lab 4 and I was also a member of the Hastings 60750 Group and I'm currently a member of the APT-E Conservation and Support Group. Regards, Kit Spackman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Kit Spackman: You most certainly do need to give your sources, per the policies WP:NOR and WP:V. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:59, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]