Talk:Bumper (broadcasting)/Archives/2012

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I tagged cleanup as well as globalize/USA. This article is not about Cartoon Network's break bumper. -- JSH-alive^{talk to me}_{see my works}^{mail to me} 15:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

UK

I believe (or maybe just suspect) that in the UK, 'bumps' are compulsory, to distinguish between the commercials and contents. Can anybody confirm/refute this? Guinness 00:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

You may well be right, it would be good to find a source though. It's interesting that the article says that where they still exist they last ten to fifteen seconds in the US and include continuity announcements. In the UK they are usually very short and are mainly composed of the programme's visual identity, often with some jingle. Plenty used to include text like "end of part one" and then after the break "part two" which always struck me as pointless and seems to have fallen out of favour. The station's identity is generally conveyed by screening trailers in the break or by very short (less than a second) idents between each advert (is there a specific name for these and should we have an article?). Five did this when they started and I remember that being the first time I'd noticed it, Channel 4 do it now and I have a feeling ITV were doing it recently (who watches ITV these days anyway). I remember watching TV in the USA and being slightly taken aback by the way you could be watching something and it would just segue into ads, but if they used to eat up up to 15 seconds a time it's more understandable why they got rid of them. 14:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I've since come across break-bumper which talks about those briefly-appearing idents. 15:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The ten to fifteen second estimate for US bumpers doesn't sound quite right. I just looked at five recordings of Late Night with Conan O'Brien, and the bumpers were from two to eight seconds long. About six seconds was the norm, and that's being played with band music in the background. 15 seconds would seem awfully long. I think I'll change the estimate in the article from "ten to fifteen" to two to fifteen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zerohourminuszero (talk • contribs) 03:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Black Screen

Does the few second black screen transition from TV show to commerical count as a bumper? It may not be flashy, but it is noticeable. Drumpler 15:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

No. What does the black screen mention or show? Nothing. Zephyrad (talk) 16:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Black was originally necessary to provide switching time between sources and is still occasionally used for dramatic effect at the end of a program segment. Commercials and program segments traditionally started by fading up from black and ended by fading out to black, mimicking film editing technique. Bumpers may or may not be used to separate program segments from commercial breaks. Since about 1995 in the US, the amount of black on-the-air has generally been diminishing. In many cases, commercials are produced with no fades at all, so that one cuts immediately to another in a multi-spot break. Local television stations sometimes try to maximize commercial and promotion inventory in a given program by trimming as much black as possible out of a syndicated program. --Thomprod (talk) 16:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The INDENT BUMPER PAGE: Should Not Be Merged

I have decided it shouldn't. it is better off a separate page. References to the subject can be kept in the Commercial bumper article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roadkill229 (talk • contribs)

Captain Kangaroo

My understanding has always been that bumpers were first introduced to American television by Captain Kangaroo (as mentioned here) at Bob Keeshan's insistence. Is this correct? Anyone have a better reference? I found contradictory claims regarding Captain Kangaroo plugging products:

• A fiftiesweb article says no cast member ever did, while
• Burke and Burke's Saturday Morning Fever says the Captain himself did up until 1971.

Not R (talk) 06:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking about commercial bumpers, or live commercials? The bumpers I remember on "Captain Kangaroo" in the 70s showed a cartoon hand holding up a stop sign when they went to commercial, then flipping it over when they came back, and a child's voice saying "Let's go back to the Captain's place." And exactly was Keeshan "insisting" on (presuming this is true)... that children be told the difference between the show and the commercials? Zephyrad (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was mixing two related topics. Yes, his insistence was on differentiating the commercials from the show clearly for kids, and my understanding is that for this reason he both introduced bumpers and didn't have cast members do ads. I see that his [IMDB trivia page] says he originally endorsed candy bars but doesn't say for how long. I don't remember seeing that in the late '60s, but my memory might be more from when my little sister watched in the mid-'70s. Not R (talk) 18:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Nickelodeon

This small section contradicts itself. It says that they no longer use bumpers in Sentence #1, and in S #2 it says that they do still. Can anyone make any sense of what they're trying to say? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.208.225 (talk) 03:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Adult Swim and SNL

Adult Swim and SNL (Saturday Night Live) are two shows that make use of bumpers in just about every commercial break. Adult Swim has one before commercials, and one after commercials, just before the show starts again. SNL has the host's picture viewed in the bumper after the commercials during a break. Just think they should be mentioned as they're one of the biggest bumper-users-ers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.211.246 (talk) 08:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

NPR?

The "commercials" that NPR (and I think maybe PBS) has. "This program was made possible by a grant from McDonald's (or whatever)" Are those bumpers, when there are no other commercials? 74.190.142.132 (talk) 23:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Both NPR and PBS are non-commercial public broadcasting networks. The elements you mention are known as underwriting spots and serve to identify companies that have contributed money to the network, often specifically for the program immediately adjacent to the billboard. These are not generally considered bumpers. --Thomprod (talk) 23:00, 23 April 2011 (UTC)