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BetandWin[edit]

Hi, we obviously an issue here, HoldemPoker is a brand run by Ongame, and simply mentioning Ongames runs this brand does not in my opinion "cover it"

Is your issue more a brand like this should have its own page? Because if so PokerRoom and CasinoRoom should also have this but they don't. In fact both myself and Kchase02 a newpage patroller feels that this current way is a fair enough method.

I don’t understand why you think we should remove information; surely the whole point of Wikipedia is to be as concise as we can be about everything right? HoldemPoker is another brand, deleting it because it belongs to a larger company is nonsense right?

It would be like deleting a part about Lincoln because it belongs to Ford right?

Anyway I don’t believe removing information is the correct method, and I’d like to hear your compromise/thoughts on the subject. Thx. -- User:Davidlightman

Holdempoker is one of several brands run by the company and that is mentioned. It neither needs, nor should have more than a mention. This article will be handled like other articles for similar companies. Whether you want to promote the company's brands or not, Wikipedia doesn't promote companies at all and of course will not offer special promotional treatment to one company over others. Betandwin's prinicipal poker entity is mentioned. We aren't going go on about every other skin. That would be useless junk. Please don't add the redundant information again, and of course don't add redundant articles either. Those will just be redirected here, again like similar companies. Betandwin offers a poker cardroom product that is described and the brands mentioned. 2005 20:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, if this is serving as the article for PokerRoom.com - one of the oldest and best known rooms on the net - why is that site not even mentioned in the lead?! Trust me, this policy of covering famous sites in articles about their not-well-known owners really stinks. --kingboyk (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me, it doesn't. In fact it works very well. And again, contribute to the discussion if you want to persuade anybody. If you think a line about Pokerroom should be in the lead, then add it it instead of making unproductive comments. 2005 (talk) 23:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising[edit]

I would have to say this is the first Wikipedia article I have read that has disappointed me, it reads like an ad for Bwin. I wonder how it has slipped through unnoticed? Take for example this: "bwin offers its customers more than 80 games..." I feel kind of soiled now, I'm gonna go home and have a wash. SpencerCollins (talk) 12:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Obviously saying they offer more than 80 games isn't advertising, so what is your gripe? 2005 (talk) 23:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many articles relating to gambling sites have bits and pieces of promotional material or biases in them. It's just the nature of the beast. Editors with a vested interest are often the only ones who can be bothered building them. Other editors later tone them down to make them more encyclopedic. Every now and then, someone from the project will get a burst of energy and proactively rewrite a few sections. Any help would be appreciated! Hazir (talk) 09:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bremen censorship?[edit]

I'm not really sure about this, and I'd strongly recommend removing this affirmation unless confirmed:

In November 2009, the city acted further by moving against sports stores which sold shirts from other teams (such as Milan and Real Madrid).[citation needed]

Is it actually true?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CR34T1V31D34 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]