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Hair?

I know there's a separate article on camel's hair as used in clothing and fabric, but shouldn't that use of the animal be in this article?

Similar articles exist for other camelids. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.247.138.215 (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Swimming?

When did camels learn how to swim?

I saw that too. I guess I would like it removed unless a source can be found. Rboesen 19:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Yup. Too bad. That would look great in the article, and I'd learn something about camels, too! User:Movingimage created the category a few days ago, thought. We might want to have a look at what he's doing. --SidiLemine 19:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Apparently they do swim. --Stvfetterly (talk) 19:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Etymology

The name camel comes from the Hebrew gamal, "to repay" or "requite", as the camel does the care of its master.

I don't understand what the last part of this sentence is trying to convey. --Danny Rathjens 05:14, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • I've rewritten that bit. Kappa 18:20, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Isn't the association of the Hebrew word gamal (meaning "camel") with the Hebrew root GML (meaning "to repay") more than a little speculative? It could be simple coincidence. I'm removing that part of the sentence, if you don't mind. —Simetrical 20:30, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

BUT: " The term camel, (from the Arabic جمل, ǧʿl, . . . "

should read

" The term camel, (from the Arabic جمل, ǧml, . . . "

JMMota (imcamota@meo.pt) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.154.46.252 (talk) 19:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction

Why does this article say there are at least 500,000 feral in Australia while dromedary puts the number at only 32,000? - SimonP 23:32, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

The latest estimate from the Northern Territory Parks and Wildlife Commission is 700,000. See http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200504/s1344199.htm for details. Tannin 21:27, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why is there a COLOR picture of "A native Turkmen man with his dromedary, circa around 1905–1915 in Turkmenistan." if it is from 1905???

Though color photography only became commonplace in the mid-20th century, it’s existed since 1861. --82.36.30.34 (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Area of origin

This page states that camels are "native to the dry and desert areas of Asia and northern Africa"

The camel bones recently found in Arizona are said to be 10,000 years old. But no information is given to establiish that date. The U.S. Army used camels in the southwest in the 1800's, so the bones are probably from one of those camels. 208.47.97.54 15:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

But the "African Slave Trade" page says:

the transportation of large numbers of slaves did not become viable until camels were introduced from Arabia in the 10th century

The second page seems little more authoritative in that respect... Can anyone shed some light?

yes this page is misleading and will be changed in short order camels dont orginate from east africa ie somalia the camel was indroduced to north africans in the 7th century bc by ther persians than it slowly over time was an animal that the east africans sarted to use where do these people get there info from--Mikmik2953 (talk) 18:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


WRONG THE CAMELS FOUND IN ZRIZONA ARE ICE AGE CAMELIDS OF A DIFFERENT SPECIES, NOT DESCENDED FROM THE DROMEDARY CAMEL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.145.7 (talk) 05:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Notes

Please define the diet and metabolism of camels. Do they chew their cud? Have 2 stomachs? How long can they go without food or water? moved from article to talk --Thatdog 09:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Weight units in the Meat section

what are the weight units in this section? kg? lbs? For me they come up as squares.

"A camel carcass can provide a substantial amount of meat, the male dromedary carcass can weigh 400㎏ or more while the carcass of a male Bactrian can weigh up to 650㎏. The carcass of a female camel weighs less than the male ranging between 250 and 350 ㎏."

Lukas 23:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

That’s kg in a squared form used in Chinese, and needs a suitable font installed. Someone’s fixed it in the article. --82.36.30.34 (talk) 20:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Excrements

How much does a camel release urine and feces and how much of it. Are the feces commonly used for burning?

Cheese

There has been successful cheese making for years now. See Caravane_cheese for detials. --SidiLemine 17:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Went ahead and added cheese making information without going corporate and pointing to a commercial venture. Included FAO report/technical paper and method. Could probably go into A LOT of chemical composition of milk but that maybe overkill. Also, according to one source cheese production ceased in 1991 though that has not been verified. --jadepearl (talk) 18:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Serengeti

The first sentence is false or misleading and should be changed. I do not think that either dromedaries or baktrian camels are found on the seregeti in northern Tanzania. Perhaps the article has been vandalised. 203.23.210.116 10:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

This is by far the most vandalised article I've been watching. What's up with it? Anyone has an explanation? I just don't get it. Why would people want to vandalize camels? Does this also happen to cows? Should this page be protected? So many questions, so little time.--SidiLemine 11:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

It isn't too special. And the page is not a candidate for protection - read up at Wikipedia:Protection policy and note that temporary protection is warranted for "a page or image that has been a recent target of persistent vandalism..." The vandalism here isn't that bad. I'll let you check cattle's history yourself :-) --Yath 13:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
This is crazy. Who does this? Why? I really can't figure out. I guess vandalism on Wiki would make a good essay subject in at least a dozen fields, prom psychology to sociology, including computer networks. I mean, movies, people, countries, I would understand. But Camels and Cattle? 5 to 10 times a day? I need an explanation.--SidiLemine 13:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I assure you alcohol is frequently involved, as evidenced by a majority of my reverted edits. As it happens I'm currently in a social drunken mood so my recent edit attempts improvement rather than levity, but lord I've had at least 4 funny edits come to mind reading through this article.
Oops that was me *hic* Jtdunlop (talk) 10:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Most vandalism I see is buy people obviously too young to drink. But that doesn't mean you're wrong.... --192.18.43.225 (talk) 20:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

intro vandal

someone keeps vandalizing the intro -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.114.192 (talk • contribs) October 6, 2006 @ 19:31 (UTC)

Fat to water

1111 grams water from 1000 grams fat? Is there a decimal point missing? What is the real figure? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.185.115 (talk • contribs) November 26, 2006 @ 17:21 (UTC)

OK, I realized afterwards that I misinterpreted the sentence.70.19.185.115 18:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

This needs a reference, i have been told (in my undergrad biology classes) that the hump has nothing to do with water storage, and that metabolism of fat causes more water loss through increased respiration than is gained. and that it is more likely that the hump has a function in temperature regulation. I have yet to find references though. - AlexandraTyers (12-feb-07)

How can you create mass from nowhere? Conservation of mass prevents this! -victor
It’s not from nowhere: it comes from the air. --82.36.30.34 (talk) 20:14, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

how can the camels like sirvive with no water or food —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.88.96.127 (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction II

'Although there are almost 13 million Dromedaries alive today, the species is all but extinct in the wild, There is, however, a substantial feral population estimated at up to 700,000 in central parts of Australia,'

Am I missing something here? How does all but extinct and a feral population of 700,000 add up? Vyse 14:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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Note: "Although there are almost 13 million Dromedaries alive today, the species is all but extinct in the wild . . . " --4.235.141.237 00:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


Wild animals are not quite the same as feral animals. Most people think of all animals not under human control as "wild", but the distinction between wild and feral is pretty important to scientists who study animal populations. 192.18.43.225 (talk) 20:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Distribution and Numbers

"Although there are almost 13 million Dromedaries alive today,..."

Please change your numbers, that there are estimated 17 million dromedaries in the world, not 13 million. Add approx. 2 mill. Bactrian Camels and you'll come to ca. 19 mill. camels worldwide, although these numbers are from 1994. Sources: - http://www.vethelplineindia.com/art_camelsector.htm 

        - http://www.fao.org/waicent/search/5_dett_fao.asp?pub_id=206678

Camel

"A fully-grown adult camel stands 1.85m/6 feet at the shoulder and 2.15m/7 feet at the hump."

Camels can be much larger: Camels with shoulder heights of 2.10 (females)/ 2.30m (males) and above can be found in Northern Kenya and Somalia. Maandeeq 11:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC) maandeeq Maandeeq 11:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hybrids

So, how does this naming scheme work?

etc.? Basically, where does the name "Cama" come from, what other varieties have been "tried", and what are the proposed names for these purported hybrids? Tomertalk 09:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Would appear to be yet more vandalism

"Due to the amount of meat a camel eats, it must also drink lots of H2O. Camels in the deserts of the Middle East have been known to consume up to 40 gallons of water, and urinate for over 3 hours."

From the "Cuisine" section. Okay, I'm not sure about the whole urinating thing (I do know that camels drink a lot, so it may be possible) but aren't camels primarily herbivores? 71.217.114.221 19:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Kashrut

What exactly constitutes a hoof? I'd say camels had split hooves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.208.51 (talk) 16:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Dude

Can we get a definition on the word, particularly what precisely it refers to. Prob not necessary for a disambiguation, but does warrant confirmation of what it refers to. Londo06 22:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Dude comes up with the word you address a person with. Might want a disambiguation? Alexsanderson83 19:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


The Old Camel Joke

Just to say that the adage: 'A camel is a horse designed by committee' (Anon) has now been updated to: 'A camel is a horse designed by wikipedia editors'. Just so you know...Colin4C 19:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Expansion

How can we expand this article to include more camels? The world needs more camels. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.251.26.28 (talk) 02:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

And more lerts *hic* Jtdunlop (talk) 10:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Origin

The origin of the modern day Camelidae can be traced back to the Protylopus which occupied North Ameirca about 54.8 to 33.7 million years ago[1], during the Eocene Period. Camelidae, along with many other North American mammals, became extinct from the continent, however, many, by this time, had crossed over the Bering Land Bridge into Asia. Others had migrated into South America and eventually evolved into the domesticated llama. [2] No-one is quite sure why Camelidae became extinct in North America, but a change in climate usually gets the blame. As the North America continent became cooler, silica levels in grass tripled. As this made the grass much tougher, it is possible that it wore the teeth of Camelidae and various other mammals in the area. This could result in starvation from being unable to chew properly. [3] There is also some evidence that suggests that the species was hunted by humans after the Bering Land Bridge disappeared 10,000 years ago.[4]

A discovery was recently made of a previously unknown giant dromedary camel species in central Syria, thought to be 100,000 years old.


I've moved this here as it looks a bit like it's copied from the sources and the first reference doesn't actually back up the point it is making. Sorry I haven't got time now to reformat it but we need to be careful of plagerism as it's a serious legal issue. Thanks to Jamie for his effort - could you check that first ref and make changes here - I will help out when I get back later but I need to be somewhere else now. Sophia 13:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Is it going to be mentioned in the article somewhere that Camels originated in North America? I mean, it seems like a healthy fact, but when I put it in the other day it was reverted. --ChaosSorcerer91 09:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

New Photos

I added two photos of camels to this site. I am not a camel expert and I know nothing about camels. I created the "Image Gallery" section and put the pictures there. If someone knows anything about camels, can you please move the pictures to a section of this article where the pictures can match up with what the article states, or change the caption to go along with something interesting about the camels in the pictures? To me the second picture looks like they could be baby camels; maybe that could be put in the caption. I would apreciate it if someone could do that. Thank you. Leitmanp 21:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Drinking

Almost the entire article uses SI units except for the amount a camel can drink in one go "20 to 25 gallons". This sounds doubtful to me, regardless of whether the gallons are US or Imperial, hence the request for a reference. To clarify this, I would ask the person responsible to add the information in litres. Thanks. TinyMark 21:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem

I don't believe the dromedary is a camel -- I just don't! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.28.237 (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


Does anyone have information about camels dancing?

Also, what about crusader horses being spooked when first encountering camels and also the earlier military destabilisation in the near east that was caused by the domestication of camels? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avimimus (talk • contribs) 23:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

And Joe Camel, where is he?? *hic* Jtdunlop (talk) 10:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Camel Farming

I re-reverted a typo fix that got undone, but now that I look more closely at the article, why is, "They also have long eyelashes protect their eyes from sand storms." even under this segment? Seems completely unrelated/out-of-place here. Im-Mersion (talk) 04:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Link Removal

Not sure where the photojournal of a camel being raised as a pet in America was removed. I was not interested in creating "hit rankings" as suggested by the person who removed it. I was interested in however in showing the camel in a way that's not often thought of in America, as a companion animal. The photojournal also details for the first year of a camel's life from 30 days old onward. Surely this would interest anyone who was searching for information on camels? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.234.183.224 (talk) 04:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

First of all wikipedia etiquette requires that you insert a new topic at the botttom of the page (not the top), and, when you bring up a point for discussion, you do not make the edit your point is referring to. This led to me seeing the change to the article first and reverting it, before noticing that you had entered a comment here!
You have been inserting external links to "photojournals". External links (see WP:EL) are supposed to be helpful and informative, and a photojournal with pretty pictures of some fellow's pet is neither. There are plenty of other places in the Internet (social networking sites) that will be more than happy the link to your photojournal. Anyway, happy editing! TINYMARK 10:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

CAMELS ROCK MAN!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.208.20 (talk) 23:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

When were camels domesticated?

The en.wikipedia has an entire article on the Domestication of the horse, yet no such article as Domestication of the camel, yet this article contains no information about when and where camels were first domesticated. This needs to be addressed by someone more expert on the topic than I am. -- arkuat (talk) 09:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

On the same score, the article has no information about the rise of the camel as a beast of burden, replacing other domesticed animals. This shift occurred during historical times, so this is a glaring omission. 192.18.43.225 (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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Do camels lost in desert?

i am not quite sure about the reason that camels couldnot lost in desert? is there any evidence to support that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.79.15.37 (talk) 15:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

No, they cannot get lost because they have unique abilities to survive undergound. For instance, during sandstorms I have seen camels burrow underground like a mole and hibernate through the winter.89.138.96.22 (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC) Jbonz

"Western Asia"

The article states that the dromedary is "native to the dry desert areas of western Asia", but then goes on to state that "The almost 14 million dromedaries alive today are domesticated animals (mostly living in Somalia, Sudan, Mauritania and nearby countries)". These are parts of Africa, not western Asia. I don't know enough about camel demographics to edit this, but the article should at least be internally consistent.

71.184.157.86 (talk) 03:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Milk fat contradiction

In the opening paragraph, it says the camel is "well known for its healthy low fat milk." Later, under Dairy, it says camel milk is "richer in fat and protein than cow milk." 207.172.220.155 (talk) 17:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

translation into Dutch

I would like to translate this article Gerard Pieter Koenraadt 21:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koenraadt (talk • contribs)

Map omission

If there is a very substantial population of dromediaries in Australia, and the only major feral population in the whole world, the map should show this.

Also, since there is no wild population, the distribution shown on the map should represent the actual domesticated and feral populations, not historic distribution.Michael of Lucan (talk) 12:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. But a source should be found first. Anyone want to be bold and edit the image? -kslays (talk • contribs) 23:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Camel milk

It is or isn't low in fat? A clause which I removed from the sentence which defines the difference between a Dromedary and a Bactrian camel stated that the milk was "low fat". In the section about dairy use it states that the milk is higher in fact than cows' milk. Which is true? Amandajm (talk) 03:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

From the UK government: "Camel milk is low in fat but high in protein, casein, potassium, vitamin C and calcium. It contains less lactose than human milk but is not available in the UK."[4] 216.99.209.244 (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

camels a cute —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.190.194.179 (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Where is Australia on the map?

well? 71.218.133.45 (talk) 17:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm kinda lookin' for it myself!! - Denidowi, Melbourne, Australia ROFL (58.166.25.91 (talk) 11:48, 31 March 2010 (UTC))
I was too, but then noticed the map is referring to the commercial camel market, not camel populations. -kslays (talk • contribs) 17:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Camels don't spit

A common misconception about camels is that they spit a lot. They don't spit, but on rare occasion, when upset, they'll regurgitate from one of their stomachs and fling the contents out of their mouths. See "fun facts" on the left of this San Diego Zoo page:[5] The current article doesn't claim that camels spit, but it does a good job of dispelling the myth that they store water in their humps, and that there is a dichotomy between dromedaries and camels (dromedaries are, in fact, a form of camel, not separate from camels). I think it would be informative to dispel this other camel myth as well. 216.99.209.244 (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Move

{{movereq|Bactrian camel}}

Camel → Bactrian camel —

Reason: Bactrian camel & Dromedary are both used for other purposes, thus require seperate article to keep things simple & correct.

  • Dromedary: used for meat, milk, wool, skin
  • Bactrian camel: used only as method of transport

[5]

References

  1. ^ The Eocene Epoch: UMCP
  2. ^ Origins and Distribution of Camels
  3. ^ John Lloyd and John Mitchinson: The Book of General Ignorance. Page 109. Faber-Faber
  4. ^ John Lloyd and John Mitchinson: The Book of General Ignorance. Page 109. Faber-Faber
  5. ^ The Seventy Great Inventions of the Ancient World by Brian M. Fagan
There already are separate articles. It wouldn't make sense to change the name of this one.--Kotniski (talk) 13:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

"Medical Uses"

I removed this section because it consisted of some references to religious texts. That does not constitute medical advice. The quotes provided did not make much sense in the context of an article about camels. Perhaps in an article about Camels in Arabic Culture? Metao (talk) 08:28, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio template

Is that copyvio template supposed to be there? WHo is working on this article? Let me know in my talk page please, thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 00:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Copyright evaluation

Hi. I'm investigating the copyright concerns at WP:CP; I think we should be able to verify permission for this material. It was placed by User:Gabriel balmus; Gabriel Balmus is listed first amongst the authors of the journal article. I've left him a note at his talk page explaining how to verify his identity, since we need to be able to connect him positively to that publication. One way or another, the article should be revisited in about a week, unless he returns to help clear this up before then. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

camels have...

camels have long eyelashes to protect there eyes from the sand. They have big feet so they don't sink in the sand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.0.149 (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

The big foot has a large surface area to prevent the camel from sinking. The force is less concentrated therefore the camel does not sink in the sand. Puffin Lets talk! 21:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Are camels endangered?

Can someone add a thing at the sing which says like Least Concern, Extinct you know what I mean? It's an animal so it needs one. It's on this page if it helps. Puffin Lets talk! 21:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It's called conservation status Puffin Lets talk! 21:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

In Islam section

I don't believe that section belongs here. We don't just list everything a religion has said about a particular animal. If we did, we'd also need to list the 59 times camel appears in the Bible, perhaps separating out Old Testament into a Judaism section. Perhaps I could imagine a short section which briefly mentions overall impressions that various religions have of camels, like if the meat is halal or kosher, or if the camel has a standard symbollic meaning, but we don't need a bunch of different quotes. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

How about if we only ad the first part without the quotes? "In Sunni Islam, the Sahih Bukhari, which forms one of the six major Hadith collections quotes the Prophet Muhammad advocating drinking camel's milk and urine as medicine in several verses." ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


That sounds fine to me. For now it could go in a "Islam" section, then if we can get more info (I'm actually curious now if camel meet is okay under Jewish and Islamic dietary laws), we can call it a "religion" section. I'll poke around if I think about it later. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:03, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
There was already some info about Judaism. So I created the religion section. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Milk and urine

Only camel's milk was prescribed by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as medicine, not urine. You should read this Hadith for accurate information. http://hadith.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=192&BookID=24&TOCID=3179 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.234.84.37 (talk) 00:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

While not myself familiar with the subject, it seems that the sources in the article are a bit specific with that: [6], [7]. Both of those include urine. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I have to concur; both sources state that the hadith explicitly says "urine". If you have some English source that says otherwise, please provide it. If there is disagreement about the interpretation of that passage, we can and should have both interpretations/opinions. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Australian feral camel population growth rate

Please change "This population is growing at approximately 18% per year." to "This population is growing at approximately 8% per year."

I cannot edit the page so am writing here for someone to do the job please. The sentence "This population is growing at approximately 18% per year." in the section "Distribution and number" does not seem to be correct. See this source: http://www.desertknowledgecrc.com.au/resource/DKCRC-Report-47-Ch02_Saalfeld-and-Edwards_Ecology-of-feral-camels-in-Australia.pdf - page 23: "Initial population estimates were projected forward to 2008 using the latest available annual rate of increase of 8% (McLeod & Pople 2008)." Also, this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_feral_camel has cited a source saying the population has "the capability of doubling in number every nine years" which corresponds with a growth rate of 8%, not 18%. Seanoneal (talk) 08:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for finding this error; I've fixed it and added a reference. For your vigilance and scholarship, I've also granted you the confirmed userright, so you'll be able to edit semi-protected articles yourself from now on. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 14:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Name Change

I believe the section 'Eco-behavioural adaptations' should be changed to 'Structural Adaptations', as it does not discuss any behavioural adaptations, and as such, may be misleading and disquieting to some. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.166.46.72 (talk) 12:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Distribution

The distribution section is self-contradictory. The section indicates that all dromedaries are domesticated and then later speaks of the feral population in Australia. Check Feral; the million or so feral camels in Australia are not domesticated. 167.123.240.35 (talk) 03:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

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Tourism uses

Where did this section go, or was it created without content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexprod (talk • contribs) 00:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Section was originally added with only a picture (that no longer exists), As far as I can tell, there was never any content in it, so I removed it. It can be re-added when needed. -- Lindert (talk) 10:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Locomotion?

I accessed this entry to see if my preconception that camels pace was correct, but see nothing on this point. I think it should be addressed in order to make this article more complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.217.188 (talk) 02:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Distribution

The map showing the distribution of camel species is clearly wrong. They can also be found in South and East Asia as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.82.13 (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Evolution

The section on evolution wants fixing: The names of genera aren't capitalised, scientific binomials aren't italicised, and the reference to Alticamelus needs to be changed to Aepycamelus.

I'd do it myself but the page has been protected.... 66.232.246.90 (talk) 15:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Done - Lindert (talk) 16:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

References

I've recently added a bunch of references to the article. In order to avoid confusion and clarify exactly which notes came from where, I've included a link to my notes page.

– Prof. Squirrel (talk) 03:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

what do they eat?

I searched for herbi(vorous), carni(vorous) and omni(vorous) in the article: no occurrences. There is enough info on camel milk, camel meat etc. Shouldn't it provide clear info on what they eat?--GDibyendu (talk) 08:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Domestication needs some work

When were they domesticated? It is critical for Bible studies as some are claiming the Bible contains anachronisms due to the evidence which suggest domestication of the camel is too recent to be part of the "traditional" Abraham period. The Bible Unearthed, see Richard Bulliet's (professor of history, Columbia University) *The Camel and the Wheel*, Columbia Univ (1990--Inayity (talk) 12:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

While the "Domestication" section could well be expanded, the specific point you bring up is already adressed there, and includes three references. All agree that camels were domesticated at least since the third millenium BC, which is before the time setting of Abraham. - Lindert (talk) 12:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

New World/South American

Is there a reason why llamas and alpacas are listed as New World camels, while Guanacos are listed as South American camels. Seems to me the terms are synonyms.96.238.211.171 (talk) 08:48, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

The semi-colon in the second sentence...

...should not be there. There should be a comma instead. Why do people use semi-colons in place of commas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.6.215 (talk) 17:15, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Correction Needed In References

There is an error in footnote 60. It reads: ^ Scarre, Chris (15 September 1993). Smithsonian Timelines of the Ancient World. London: D. Kindersley. p. 176. ISBN 978-1-56458-305-5. "Both the dromedary (the seven-humped camel of Arabia) and the Bactrian camel (the two-humped camel of Central Asia) had been domesticated since before 2000 BC."

I suspect that it should read:"..... the dromedary (the single-humped camel of Arabia)...."

Seven-humped camels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.108.105 (talk) 21:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Move table

I propose moving the table showing "camel-like mammals". Camels is about camels and states there are only two species; it is not about Camelids. It is confusing then to have a table showing 6 species. The table is a good one so rather than deleting or editing it, I think it should be moved whole to Camelids - it would benefit that article.__DrChrissy (talk) 22:17, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree. - Lindert (talk) 22:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Afro-asiatic Camelid Range.jpg

Please remove File:Afro-asiatic Camelid Range.jpg from the infobox. This map is wrong, since it is only the range of the domesticated dromedary camel, and not Afroasiatic camelids. So the filename and the current caption give false information to our readership -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Done - Yeah, not sure why that was in there. I've removed that file and replaced it with the identical file, titled "Dromedary Range", and removed the reference to bactrians from the caption. I'm also removing the thumbnail you added to this page so the duplicate file may be deleted without issue. Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 03:27, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

dulla? I Doubt it

I am not expert, but a fast google shows nothing called a 'dulla' as mentioned in the biology para. Are we being wooshed? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 05:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

So I just asked my Saudi students. They said camels do in fact have the organ described. Shows you Google does not know everything! Paul, in Saudi (talk) 08:57, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
There are some google leads but none seem any more reliable than WP and its anon editors itself. Going to academic search engines was easy to WP:Vverify it though, but turns out our article was not exactly correct (only dromedaries have it, not bactrians). So now we have a good source in the article and more correct details too. Thanks for alerting us (and helping confirm it). DMacks (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
For those following this thread, there is now a Dulla (organ) page onto which I have posted external links to photos of this amazing organ.__DrChrissy (talk) 20:31, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Misleading claims

"According to molecular data, the New World and Old World camelids diverged 11 million years ago.[44] In spite of this, these species can still hybridize and produce fertile offspring.[45] The hybrid camel has one hump, though it has an indentation 4–12 cm (1.6–4.7 in) deep that divides the front from the back. "

This section is quite misleading. The hybrid mentioned in the third sentence is a cross between the dromedary and bactrian camels, and not a cross between the Asian and South American species, as the first two sentences would imply.Eregli bob (talk) 10:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Citation needed for meaning of gāmāl

The text at the end of the second paragraph needs a citation "The Hebrew meaning of the word gāmāl is derived from the verb root g.m.l, meaning (1) stopping, weaning, going without; or (2) repaying in kind. This refers to its ability to go without food or water, as well as the increased ability of service the animal provides when being properly cared for."

If this is some how self-evident, ( i.e. within the Judaic culture ), please explain for someone not familiar with the culture. Mazzarotti (talk) 05:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

 Not done You must not suggest what to do, instead provide the text what you have wanted to change. Close as not done. EthicallyYours! 17:29, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

add link

There's a great little movie called "The Story of the Weeping Camel" you might want to add, it is amazing. Hillmon7500 (talk) 02:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

"horses are afraid of the camels' scent" - Source reilable?

The source for this quote seems to be a fact sheet by the San Diego zoo: http://library.sandiegozoo.org/factsheets/camel/camel.htm

When scrolling down you find the laconic part about the relation of horses to camels: " Used in combat 

 Used because of their ability to scare horses
   Camel smell spooks horses

"

How reliable is this source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.235.231 (talk) 11:35, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Better sources, eg Herodotus.[8], [9], [10], [11]. Dougweller (talk) 14:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I actually came here to verify Herodotus' claim about camels. I think Herodotus is a poor source about this fact given that it is possible to verify it today (via horse/camel experts).
The 2nd source is also Greek history, 3rd source does not seem to refer to the connection between horses and camels, and the 4th source is indeed very interesting.
However searching on Google I could not verify that the rationale behind the Nevada ban on camels in highways is that it scared off horses. I also couldn't find anything about the Brownsville, TX ban.
There is yet another problem - even the 4th source admits that the problem is really about horses being unfamiliar with camels (and he compares this to Arab horses which do tolerate camels).
Now if this is the case, then for that matter even cows, donkeys or pigs could be used to frighten horses (due to the horse's probable unfamiliarity with them).
However Herodotus' and the 4th source's claim is very clear about the reason being the camel's smell, which suggests that it is more than just unfamiliarity.
Looking online at forums about horses I found a related question that mentions that horses dislike camels:
http://bushcapital.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=5330.0
However other users claim that horses are generally afraid of anything unfamiliar.
Additionally I would expect of other (for instance Greeks or Romans) armies to employ this tactic :: if it were so effective, and yet the only case of this I could find is that of Cyrus and the Lydians. 77.127.235.231 (talk) 15:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Dates in Military Uses Section Inconsistent

In the section on military uses in the 19th and 20th centuries, the dates for the US Army are inconsistent. The first sentence says that the Camel Corps was stationed in California in the late 19th century; the rest of the paragraph says that the Camel Corps was ended at the time of the Civil War when Texas seceded.

The article on the United States Camel Corps agrees with the earlier, pre-Civil War, dates. --JerryS NB (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2014

2602:306:CF44:8730:603F:D6BD:83B3:6935 (talk) 15:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

The noun "jamal" means "camel" in Arabic but the verb "jamala" does not mean "to carry." Perhaps the source is confusing the orthographically similar words حمل (to carry) and جمل (camel). If it is not an Arabic word originally, there is no reason to relate it to an Arabic root, especially one that doesn't exist, since the source is not the root, but the Phoenician word or some intermediary variant. I think the entry should simply read: "Phoenician gāmāl, cognate with the Arabic noun "jamal," meaning camel."

All the meanings associated with the Arabic root j-m-l can be found here: http://www.tyndalearchive.com/tabs/lane/

Partly done: I have removed the bit about jamala per your concerns. I happen to own the second edition of the New Oxford American Dictionary and it doesn't say anything about the Arabic root. I haven't put in the part "cognate with the Arabic noun "jamal," meaning camel.", since it sounds like you are speculating about it. Can you provide a source verifying that the word "camel" is derived from the Arabic cognate? You provided the Lane book but it looks like a very large book; if verification is in there, could you help us by showing us where to look? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

7 Separate species of Camel

There are seven separate species of camel, three of which are old world, not two! we should not forget that the wild camel is genetically different from the two domestic species of the old world. here is a site to confirm what I am saying: http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8151000/8151804.stm 

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.168.41.254 (talk) 18:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Camels can "spit" when threatened or scared, and they have long eyelashes just so the sand won't get into their eyes, and they can last about 2 weeks without food or water when they have just gotten done eating, and they are like horses because you can ride them in the desert. ~peopelgocraztonight~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peoplegocrazytonight (talk • contribs) 23:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2014

The template call: 

 {{Artiodactyla}}

should be changed to 

 {{Artiodactyla|T.}}

to unhide the relevant sub-order, as per typical usage of this template. Rberetta (talk) 02:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 02:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014

i beleive tat camels have 2 humps or more and they use them to store food and water......... 170.185.164.17 (talk) 16:08, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

I think you should read the article more carefully - Arjayay (talk) 18:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Origins of word goes back further

Please change the current " The term "camel" is derived via Latin and Greek (camelus and κάμηλος kamēlos respectively) from Hebrew or Phoenician gāmāl.[4][5] " to something like " The term "camel" is derived via Latin and Greek (camelus and κάμηλος kamēlos respectively) by way of Hebrew or Phoenician gāmāl[4][5] from Accadian gammalu 'male dromedary'. " See for example the Demotic Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (Johnson ed), G, p.31 and Coptic Etymological Dictionary (Černý) p.331. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.7.72.178 (talk) 02:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit request

Can we please remove the tag which puts it on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Halal_food ?--88.104.134.194 (talk) 14:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC) Agree.--88.104.131.9 (talk) 17:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Genetics Section includes the following statement and reference >In spite of this, these species can still hybridize and produce fertile offspring.[46] The preceding sentence indicates the old world camels and new world camelids diverged 11 million years ago (hence the "in spite of this"). The cited reference #46 links to a paper which describes an attempt to hybridize the Dromendary camel with the South American Guanaco camelid. In the paper, all but one of the pregnancies resulting from the artificial insemination were aborted or stillborn. The single successful birth was a sterile hybrid. Thus, the statement in the article is in conflict with the reference it cites. The statement is also in conflict with the rest of the paragraph describing camel-llama hybrids but noting they are sterile, like the mule. It is suggested the statement above should be changed to

"In spite of this, these species can hybridize but produce sterile offspring[46]" Egudahl (talk) 20:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Keep No need to remove this valid information here. Read about Carnism :) --huggi - never stop exploring (talk) 00:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


domesticated by  ?

The phrase "domesticated by humans" is redundant.

Is there any other species that is domesticating animals?--23.119.204.117 (talk) 05:34, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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Link #1 is broken. The first external reference is no longer valid. 68.6.99.207 (talk) 02:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Translation error

In translation of sunni hadiths a last phrase is missing. that's. " ibn sireen narrated from Abu Qatadah that it was before the revelation of hudud. Smatrah (talk) 07:21, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Number of species

On the first paragraph it is stated there are only two surviving species of Camelus, but in fact there are three, as you can see elsewhere: C. ferus, C. bactrianus and C. dromedarius.

--46.25.48.186 (talk) 15:34, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done found refs and fixed. Loopy30 (talk) 18:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Disputed, NPOV

The sections on the health values and on milk and urine do not properly represent the sources and seem to be giving a pov amounting to medical advice. These edits were done as part of a student program, and I've posted to [{User:Ian (Wiki Ed)}} about this but had no response. What I said to him was:

Camel#The Health Benefits of Camel Meat starts with the sentence "The medical and food research have proved that meat of a camel is safer than meat from other animals." The source for the first few sentences can be found here. It certainly doesn't back the "safer" claim. It doesn't say " high benefit of reduced cardiac diseases" but it does mention that the "healthy level of minerals... is an important factor in combating the risk of cardiovascular disease, which is attributed to saturated fat consumption." The source doesn't mention tumors. Although it mentions glycogen it only links that to making the meat sweet, nothing in the source backs " high level of glycogen hence can be used to reduce body fatigue (Tariq et al., 2010)." The next source is a newspaper article, and the source after that seems to be [12] - an anonymous blog. I didn't go any further, and didn't look into the issues in the urine section.

It's been added by a student in the Howard program, User:Afnan.mohy, but copied from the sandbox of another student, User:Areejalaamer/sandbox which complicates things slightly as it's a copyright violation, but that can be fixed. Doug Weller talk 14:46, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I've removed the material and tags relating to it. Let's see some discussion first. Samsara 14:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Coatrack

This article is being used as a coatrack for theological debates: Sunni vs Shia and Islam vs secular. This article is meant to be about camels, and only a brief summary of the animals' significance in Islam is appropriate. Bless sins (talk) 17:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Separate article on Camels in religion? Doug Weller talk 20:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
A better option would be to merge a summary of this to Animals in Islam. The primary sources should be on wikiquote, not here.Bless sins (talk) 04:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
I have removed most of the material as it was poorly sourced, while keeping the sole scholarly source on the issue. News stories of a man selling his urine as camel's urine in Saudi Arabia are not only bizarre but absolutely a violation of WP:UNDUE, especially when placed in a section called "Islam".Bless sins (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

it yields more than one gram of water for every gram of fat processed.

This is idiotic, camels do not violate the law of conservation of mass — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.30.50 (talk) 07:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, this struck me as odd too. Here is the text from the source that was cited:

"First, it can be ascertained that the camel's hump is not in fact filled with water, simply by cutting into it. Such action would reveal that the hump is in fact composed mostly of fat. Yet, this could still suggest that the hump acts as a water store. If a gram of fat is broken down during metabolism, it produces more than a gram of water. However, camels cannot use this fat for water production. Due to the arid conditions prevailing in their habitat, they would lose too much water from their airways in obtaining enough oxygen for fat degradation. So, what is the role of the camel's hump? Unfortunately the answer is relatively dull - it appears that the humps are merely food reserves, and the fat contained within is degraded and used for nutrition when food is scarce."

While it repeats that factoid, note that the highlighted section goes on to say that this fat isn't used for water at all, it's used for food, meaning the article text is incorrect (unless the other source is saying something contradictory, but it's not a source that can be seen online). Can someone please clear this up?

Also, note that the article text says "When this tissue is metabolized, it yields more than one gram of water for every gram of fat processed." This implies that the fat in a camel's hump is somehow special in that regard, when in fact the source is just stating that fact in a general sense (and since camel's don't use this fat store for water the whole point is moot anyway) 70.91.35.27 (talk) 19:37, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Tim

Fat molecules have a lot of hydrogen. When they are metabolized, oxygen from the blood (from the atmosphere) is combined with hydrogen from the fat to yield water and energy (in the form of ATP). The mass of water comes mostly from the oxygen. So it is indeed likely that metabolizing a gram of fat yields more than a gram of water.

How much of a camel's water supply comes from metabolizing the fat in its humps seems to be an unsettled question. This reference, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/0307-4412(81)90212-0/pdf , gives some insight into the question. RayEstonSmithJr (talk) 19:27, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

When the camel burns fat for food it will have to breathe in a corresponding amount of oxygen and lose some water through the lungs anyway - the metabolic water produced by burning the fat is a bonus. I think digestion uses water, so digesting food and storing it as fat before leaving on a long journey means that less of both food and water need to be carried along. Perhaps the main water-saving from the stored fat in the humps comes from less water needed for digestion on the journey. RayEstonSmithJr (talk) 19:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

WP:DETAIL summary including Biblical reference

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Subsection Textiles in Camel

"Design labels such as Bill Blass manufacture men's sportcoats that contain camel hair." sounds like an ad or endorsement in this context.

Camel hair has been used in western fashion, primarily overcoats, for at least 100 years. It's so ubiquitous that there is a color of brown that is referred to as camel and often leads to confusion about whether or not there is camel hair in a garment.

The whole section seems pretty minimal, but I would suggest eliminating the reference to a specific designer who is no more know for using camel than any other is a good first step in improving the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.147.232.225 (talk) 21:25, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Done, copied a bit of text in from Camel hair that says more or less what you've said. Doug Weller talk 13:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Eaten in the west as well

I'm in the UK and cooked camel last week. It's available on the web and in some shops. I'd be surprised if that wasn't the same elsewhere. Doug Weller talk 18:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2018

Under the "meat" heading, the claim "Camels are the ultimate pillars that support national economies of many developing countries, because they are useful for transport" is unsupported. The appended citation misleading implies that all parts of this sentence is true, even though it only applies to the final part, "[camels] provide food in the form of meat and milk (Tariq et al.,2010)" ACarpDM (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for raising this concern here. I have added a Citation needed tag. if there is no citation for the challenged text it will be removed after some time from this article. DBigXrayᗙ 14:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

contradiction between "camel" and "camel milk" articles

Is camel milk lower or higher in fat content compared to cow's milk? Two contradicting sentences and references.

Article camel: "Camel milk is rich in vitamins, minerals, proteins, and immunoglobulins;[109] compared to cow's milk, it is lower in fat and lactose,[110] and higher in potassium, iron, and vitamin C.[11]"

Article camel milk: "Compared to cow milk, camel milk is richer in fat and protein.[1]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.223.5.160 (talk) 16:08, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Since this was raised, several changes have been done. Nutritional value details have been added to the Camel milk article. However further improvements are needed to ensure that the Camel milk article includes everything included in the relevant section in the Camel article (which could more or less mirror the lead section of Camel milk, functioning as a summary). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:21, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Camel riding experiences

Hello, the article does not describe camel riding experiences (aka tourist traps). Can anyone add it? Thanks! --179.26.159.67 (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2020

I'd like to request a removal of this sentence: "Concentrating body fat in their humps minimizes the insulating effect fat would have if distributed over the rest of their bodies, helping camels survive in hot climates.[22][23]"

The above sentence is contradictory with a later sentence: "Surprising finds of fossil Paracamelus on Ellesmere Island beginning in 2006 in the high Canadian Arctic suggest that the extant Old World camels may descend from a larger, boreal browser whose hump may have evolved as an adaptation in a cold climate.[71][72]"

My reasoning for this removal is that the statement is misleading. Concentrating body fat seems to be purely about energy storage, not about minimizing insulation for hot climates, since camels seem to have originated from cold climates.

The sources for the sentence up for removal are from a questionably credible source ([22]) and a potentially outdated textbook from 1986 ([23]). The second sentence is from more recent sources/discoveries in 2013 and therefore seems to provide reasonable evidence for removal of the first one. [71][72]

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      I made the requested edits. Thank you for suggesting this (Timmy (talk) 22:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC))

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2021

it says extanct Perfectpagebrah (talk) 17:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 19:00, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Horses

Not certain this sentence is accurate. "Like horses before their extinction in their continent of origin, camels spread across Beringia, moving in the opposite direction from the Asian immigration to America."

It piqued my curiosity, so I dug into it a little, and couldn't find anything that stated horses originated only there.

Plus are horses extinct anywhere? Fairly sure they pretty much have a global presence. Sajiky (talk) 19:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Potential Contradiction

The United States Camel Corps article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps) says that the camels were sold at auction, this appears to contradict the statement "most of the camels were left to wander away into the desert" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel#Military_uses). The US Camel Corps article also states "The last of the animals from California was reportedly seen in Arizona in 1891" which may imply that some were released but is confusing because it is not explicitly stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somebody1226 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

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DR BALWANT MESHRAM (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

In India, the population of camel which were recorded in the animal census'2012, were declined by 37% and in the year 2019 that records 2.5 laks of camel population.

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2022

Here in the domestication section, the information about the camel's origin being North America is wrong, it is India from where they originated 45.114.51.252 (talk) 06:32, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 06:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Dulla (organ) into Camel#Biology

Dulla (organ) contains no significant content that is not already present in Camel#Biology. The later is sourced, and the former is not. MarioGom (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Nothing seems to link to it besides camel and there are no references in the article. Merging seems a good idea. --Erp (talk) 00:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 Done MarioGom (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Distribution map

I doubt camels follow national boundaries. GaryTalk to me 21:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antalope (talk • contribs)


  • What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}) Change the "dulla" link in "Biology" to regular text
  • Why it should be changed: The link redirects to the page it is on in the section it is on. In other words, it is completely useless.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): Pretty obvious.

209.237.105.195 (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

References

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 17:23, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2023

Add the conservation status of the animal 2601:603:5300:AAF0:74FE:5CB3:A594:523F (talk) 23:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not a species page. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 02:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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