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Requested move 10 December 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW oppose makes it nigh impossible this will ever succeed. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Canada Goose (clothing) → Canada Goose – Move over redirect per WP:SMALLDETAILS. "Canada goose" is a bird; "Canada Goose" is a clothing manufacturer. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move, but have "Canada Goose" be a disambiguation page between the goose and the clothing company. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Canada goose gets about 40K pageviews a month. Canada Goose (clothing) gets about ~~650~~ 8600 pageviews a month. This isn't even close. The header notes are more than sufficient; there's not even a good reason to have a dab page. Risker (talk) 00:04, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The bird is by far the primary topic. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the bird is the word. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A well a everybody's heard about the bird. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:16, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per encyclopedic accuracy, are you sure everybody's heard? Randy Kryn (talk) 14:39, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The overwhelmingly more common search target for the string "Canada Goose" is the bird, because of the over-capitalization habit common to most (though not all) ornithoscopic and ornithological publications. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. DIFFCAPS does not apply to cases like this one. The important thing is not just to automatically give things like this the base name if the related topic is at a different capitalisation, but to determine what the primary topic for the proposed name. In this case, it is absurd to suggest that this obscure clothing manufacturer is the primary topic for the term Canada Goose, and if read correctly, the WP:DIFFCAPS guideline does not require or advise us to do so. — Amakuru (talk) 11:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per SMcCandlish. Indeed, a few years ago, Wikipedia's own article naming conventions contained an exception to use uppercase for the names of bird and butterfly species, since specialist literature tends to use caps. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose the bird has 30,415 views compared with 11,337 for the company. As noted above species are commonly capitalized so I don't think this would have been like say Red Meat where the meat is rarely capitalized. However I would agree with Paintspot and move Canada Goose (disambiguation) to the base name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

For future reference, I just went through and fixed links to Canada Goose and changed them to either Canada goose or Canada Goose (clothing). There were six intended for the bird and two for the clothing brand. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 23:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Asking to add new image[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi again! I'd like to ask about adding a new photo to the page, potentially to replace the photo of the Canada Goose products showing the logo. The new image shows part of the sewing process at the Toronto Canada Goose factory. I've uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons and worked through the process to make sure it is appropriately released. If you go to this link you should see it.

Thank you in advance for looking at this and if anything else is needed for the image, please let me know! Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is a good idea. All four of the current images show the Canada Goose logo, and we really don't need another photo that focuses entirely on the logo. An image of the actual manufacturing process might be more useful (e.g., how the fill is added to the coats, the process of obtaining and managing the fur, etc). Risker (talk) 01:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the sentiment that a better image of the manufacturing process would be preferred. But I disagree that it isn't a "good image to use" simply because of the prominence of the logo (also, at least in my own opinion, only one/two of the images in the article place prominence on that).

This article presently has five images, three of which focus on storefronts (two just being entrances), and only two of which abide by MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE guidelines concerning the article's actual content. I'd argue this image is much more relevant than the two storefront entrance images, as that actually (somewhat) depicts content that is written in the article (the Toronto production facility). Also, just for variety's sake, we could surely swap out one of those entrance images in place of this one... Leventio (talk) 04:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added the following image, as well as another storefront image that is more relevant to the article's actual content. On a related note, I've also removed the non-relevant/decorative images that were previously in this article. If there is any contention with the use of the image provided by Canada Goose Isabella, feel free to revert so we can discuss it here. Leventio (talk) 22:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggesting Charitable efforts section[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello! I wanted to propose a brief Charitable efforts section draft for the article. This draft doesn't strive to cover every philanthropic endeavor the company has launched. Rather, I've tried to highlight a couple of notable initiatives that received a fair amount of coverage in reputable media outlets. Here is my proposed draft:

In 2019, Canada Goose instituted a program called Project Atigi, through which it has partnered with Inuit seamstresses across Canada to produce jackets and parkas.^[1]^[2] Proceeds from the sale of this outerwear goes to the Canadian nonprofit organization Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami.^[1]^[2]

As the COVID-19 pandemic was developing in March 2020, Canada Goose produced 2.5 million PPE units, which were delivered at cost to provincial and federal governments.^[3]^[4] In June 2020, the company announced it was donating another 20,000 uniforms to personnel at eight Mount Sinai hospitals in New York.^[5]

References

^ ^a ^b Palmieri, Jean (February 1, 2019). "Canada Goose Commissions Inuit Seamstresses for Collection". Women's Wear Daily. Retrieved April 7, 2022.
^ ^a ^b Anderson, Samuel (January 21, 2020). "Indigenous Makers Re-Imagine Canada Goose". V Magazine. Retrieved April 7, 2022.
^ "Canada Goose, Gap to make scrubs, patient gowns in battle against coronavirus". Reuters. March 25, 2020. Retrieved April 7, 2022.
^ Dejardins, Lynn (December 17, 2020). "Canadian company to send PPE to northern Indigenous communities". Radio Canada International. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved August 1, 2023.
^ Milton, Hailee (June 25, 2020). "Canada Goose Collaborates with Kate Upton To Support Mount Sinai". V Magazine. Retrieved April 7, 2022.

I'll ask User:Leventio if they would like to review, since they were very helpful with a previous request of mine. Other editors are welcome to review as well, if they feel one way or another about my proposal. Thanks! Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 21:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Canada Goose Isabella, I just wanted to comment that I've noted your request and will be able to assist in the next few days. That said, if any other editor wants to tackle this, they are more than welcome to. Cheers! Leventio (talk) 04:28, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, User:Leventio! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help with your review process. Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 16:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay in response over the past weeks. I don't see any issues with proposal. I suggest renaming the section title to "Social Impact" so the section can be expanded in the future, more broadly speaking. Leventio (talk) 03:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries about the delay, User:Leventio. I really appreciate that you've come back to this. Changing the section title to Social impact is fine with me. If we made that change, would you feel comfortable adding the section draft text to the article? Let me know. And thanks again! Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds good. With that, I'm fine with the proposed content. I can add this later today, unless you have any additional proposals you want to include. Leventio (talk) 04:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, no further additions from me. Thanks so much, User:Leventio! Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 15:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After a bit of a delay (apologies for all of them), the text has been inserted. Cheers! Leventio (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest to move “Sustainability and treatment of animals” to new “Criticism” section[edit]

I visited this page to learn more about the controversy over Canada Goose’s treatment of animals, but it took me a long time to find the information in the “products” section. I don’t think that information belongs there.

It would be easier for future visitors to find the information if criticism/controversy were in a separate top-level section. I think this could be done while still maintaining a neutral point of view. GaramondQ (talk) 05:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Top level "criticism" sections are typically avoided in most Wiki articles (usually done in the spirit of WP:CRIT). The approach is usually to integrate criticisms into their relevant sections (in this case, use of fur would fall under Products), providing balance throughout the article. Leventio (talk) 22:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[PalmieriWWD-1] Palmieri, Jean (February 1, 2019). "Canada Goose Commissions Inuit Seamstresses for Collection". Women's Wear Daily. Retrieved April 7, 2022.

[AndersonVMag-2] Anderson, Samuel (January 21, 2020). "Indigenous Makers Re-Imagine Canada Goose". V Magazine. Retrieved April 7, 2022.

[Reuters20-3] "Canada Goose, Gap to make scrubs, patient gowns in battle against coronavirus". Reuters. March 25, 2020. Retrieved April 7, 2022.

[Desjardins-4] Dejardins, Lynn (December 17, 2020). "Canadian company to send PPE to northern Indigenous communities". Radio Canada International. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved August 1, 2023.

[MiltonVMag-5] Milton, Hailee (June 25, 2020). "Canada Goose Collaborates with Kate Upton To Support Mount Sinai". V Magazine. Retrieved April 7, 2022.

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