Talk:Car Wash (soundtrack)
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Requested move 26 September 2016[edit]
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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 04:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Car Wash: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack → Car Wash (soundtrack) – Should use parenthetical disambiguation instead. George Ho (talk) 22:13, 26 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 11:44, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Survey[edit]
- Support per nom. Dicklyon (talk) 02:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose. No reason to avoid natural disambiguation. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support per nom, "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" is not part of the album's title. Neodop (talk) 19:48, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support. The current title can't pretend to be the common name, surely? That's Car Wash. So disambiguate as proposed, and as other similar articles do, and for good reason. Andrewa (talk) 10:58, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
The title is too long to type, Chase. The sources do not use the full title: [1],(maybe this one?),[2],[3],[4],[5],[6],[7]. Also, per WP:NATURAL, the title must not be obscure or made-up. The current form fails to meet the standards. --George Ho (talk) 08:14, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- The title is not "obscure" or "made-up", it's the name of the album. Your excuse about it being "too long to type" is nonsensical. Wikipedia has drop-down menus when searching, and Car Wash (soundtrack) can easily redirect to this article. Chase (talk | contributions) 18:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not confident that the "drop-down menus" argument holds up. Titles change, and the menus confirm that. What about WP:COMMONNAME? Sources use "Car Wash" and "soundtrack" to distinguish Car Wash (song) and Car Wash (film), which are related to the soundtrack. --George Ho (talk) 22:22, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- The common name of the album is "Car Wash". That name is taken. Parenthetical disambiguation is preferred only when natural and comma-based disambiguation are not possible. Natural disambiguation is possible, as the full title of the album is an available option (and the current title). There is no reason to change this. Chase (talk | contributions) 00:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, Chase. The community modified the rules for the parenthetical disambiguation (WP:AT#Disambiguation). Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 51#Proposed change in the Parenthetical disambiguation text, which I found recently, proves this. The change occurred around April 2015. Now it's no longer "if natural disambiguation is not possible" but currently "
none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title
. Id est the current title (natural disambiguation) is not the "optimal" (or satisfying) article to come up with. --George Ho (talk) 01:36, 6 October 2016 (UTC)- I see no reason why the proposed title is optimal and my !vote stands. Chase (talk | contributions) 01:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Per WP:CRITERIA, proposed title is more concise, recognizable, natural, precise, and consistent with other articles using the same method (Saturday Night Fever (soundtrack), Star Wars (soundtrack)) than the current title. Oh, never mind. I'm too exhausted to influence you. George Ho (talk) 02:12, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- I see no reason why the proposed title is optimal and my !vote stands. Chase (talk | contributions) 01:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, Chase. The community modified the rules for the parenthetical disambiguation (WP:AT#Disambiguation). Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 51#Proposed change in the Parenthetical disambiguation text, which I found recently, proves this. The change occurred around April 2015. Now it's no longer "if natural disambiguation is not possible" but currently "
- The common name of the album is "Car Wash". That name is taken. Parenthetical disambiguation is preferred only when natural and comma-based disambiguation are not possible. Natural disambiguation is possible, as the full title of the album is an available option (and the current title). There is no reason to change this. Chase (talk | contributions) 00:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not confident that the "drop-down menus" argument holds up. Titles change, and the menus confirm that. What about WP:COMMONNAME? Sources use "Car Wash" and "soundtrack" to distinguish Car Wash (song) and Car Wash (film), which are related to the soundtrack. --George Ho (talk) 22:22, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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