Talk:Catch-22 (disambiguation)

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Requested move 1 November 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is reasonable clear though getting the most views isn't enough to make something primary, my bad for missing the origin which does suggest it is. (non-admin closure) Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:02, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Catch-22 (disambiguation) → Catch-22
Catch-22 → Catch-22 (novel)

– No clear primary topic, by usage the novel gets 43,117 views but the logic gets 27,285 (so the "much more likely than any other single topic" isn't likely satisfied), the miniseries gets 12,043, the film gets 8,231 and the band gets 1,784, the Lost episode gets 613, the Hypocrisy album gets 243, the Tinchy Stryder album gets 221, the charity gets 148, the song gets 100, the play gets 52 and the video game gets 19. That makes 50,639 views which is a negative number already despite the benefit of being at the base name, thus the "more likely than all the other topics combined" isn't satisfied, also Double bind gets 5,671, Dilemma gets 5,148 and Hobson's choice gets 11,604. By long-term significance the logic is likely primary if anything and while the other media with this name mainly appear to be named after the novel, the novel's name derives from the logic, see Catch-22 (logic)#Origin and meaning. In shot the novel clearly isn't primary by long-term significance and its also no primary by usage. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. First, per your own stats, the book does get the most page views. Second, and perhaps more importantly, the term originated with the book (did you actually read the page you linked to?) and nearly all the other uses are adaptations of it. I must also object to you once again hiding a discussion on the talk page of a DAB rather than the article talk page which is more heavily trafficked. -- Calidum 00:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the iconic book originated the term and concept, and as one of the great and notable novels of the 20th century its long-term significance seems evident. Maybe strike out the sentence portion of the nom which suggests that the name of the logic came first, per the link. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as absurd. The novel is obviously the primary topic. Without it, there would be no catch-22 to discuss. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.