Talk:Causes of mental disorders/Archive 1

Archive 1

Criticism

The article wanders but this is understandable. The DSM cannot decide what is psychosis and what is not.

For instance Qi Gong Psychosis is considered a Culture Bound Syndrome but the Awakening of Kundalini is not. In both cases performing the exercise too many times in a compact time frame produces a time limited psychotic episode. (First psychotic episode.)

Some long-term users begin to believe they can levitate, walk through solid objects, dematerialize or become invisible at will, and that they can read your mind, control your thoughts and actions through mental telepathy.

Participants believe that if they perform certain physical exercises in unison they gain the power to transcend normal reality. Case histories from China say that some Qi Gong participants seem to become addicted to the exercise and cannot or will not stop gathering others to exercise with them even under threat of arrest.

These altered mental states are not considered mental illness because the victims are accepted as enlightened within their groups of common belief set. The bizarre thinking and psychosis do not seem to impact their lives negatively.

When examined with a view of the envelope but not the substance of bizarre beliefs these two exercises form a model for Schizophrenia. (The delusions of Schizophrenia are culture specific.)

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Psychotic_Mental_Illness_Cause.htm

Studies that only reach a statistical correlation are worthless. They do not meet any minimum standard for scientific investigation and cannot be “good academic studies” no matter what their size or length of time involved. They fail to account for all the variables involved because they do not know what those variables are. In the 1930’s Schizophrenia was more common in inner cities rather than rural areas. The theory then was that deprivation caused it. When patients improved in hospitals but relapsed when sent home, poor home life became the cause of Schizophrenia.

There has never been a provable causal link to brain chemistry or inherited mental illness. The fact that only forty percent of cases appear to have a genetic link tells us that mental illness is not inherited. Schizophrenia onsets in late adolescence hampering marriage possibilities and that would prevent genetic transmission.

Research at the University of Georgia in 2002 determined that there is a common hyperactivity of the M-Channel for vision in Schizophrenics and their close blood relatives who are disease free. This posits that Schizophrenia is an altered mental state created by the same phenomenon that causes the psychotic episodes of Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga.

The explanation is much too long for this discussion page.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Kundalini_Yoga_Psychotic_Episode.htm http://visionandpsychosis.net/QiGong_Psychotic_Reaction_Diversion.htm

These same mental events have happened on scientific expeditions and on space missions.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Astronauts_Insanity.htm

L K Tucker 68.158.201.98 21:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

The missing link: Bacterial infections.

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Source: Canadian Lymes Association

This material may apply to a variety of illnesses. Like my research has suggested the testing for this one possible cause is difficult, and if overlooked then the patient has very little chance of cure.

--Caesar J. B. Squitti  : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 03:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Once a test is negative, the false assumption of a negative test, that the person does not have this or that infection results in a continuation of symptoms and increase in problems...

--Caesar J. B. Squitti  : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 19:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

A missing element: Pharmaceutical drugs.

Why is PPA missing from the list of possible factors contributing to this.

PPA a common drug found in over the counter medications until 2000 in the USA. (What about other drugs....)

Some research suggested that ...

"many psychotic episodes ocurred after suffering 'flue like' symptoms"

If you read between the lines, it was in some cases, that the individual took a cold medication with PPA to deal with the flu and experience a mental illness...

PPA look it up.

Seems this would certainly reduce the stigma attached to mental illness, so why is it ignored ?

--Caesar J. B. Squitti  : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 09:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

PPA Side effects

A scientific study found an increased risk of hemorrhagic stroke in women who used phenylpropanolamine, although it is not clear which isomer is to blame. A study at the Yale University School of Medicine in 1999 had produced similar results.[1] Reports of cases of hemorrhagic strokes in PPA users had been circulating since the 1970s.

A report from the Dept. of Psychiatry, F. Edward Hebert School of Medicine, Bethesda, Maryland in Pharmacopsychiatry states:

We have reviewed 37 cases (published in North America and Europe since 1960) that received diagnoses of acute mania, paranoid schizophrenia, and organic psychosis and that were attributed to PPA product ingestion. Of the 27 North American case reports, more reactions followed the ingestion of combination products than preparations containing PPA alone; more occurred after ingestion of over-the-counter products than those obtained by prescription or on-the-street; and more of the cases followed ingestion of recommended doses than overdoses.

Failure to recognize PPA as an etiological agent in the onset of symptoms usually led to a diagnosis of schizophrenia or mania, lengthy hospitalization, and treatment with substantial doses of neuroleptics or lithium.--Caesar J. B. Squitti  : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 09:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

And how common is PPA use? Perhaps you should avoid lecturing and simply list the information you'd like to discuss. JFW | T@lk 11:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

References

Matrix Factor - Multiple Cause.

Excuse the suggestion, but once again, half-truths abound.

My analysis of PPA, a drug that can cause psychotic episodes occurs in 'pregnent women' or 'suseptible' individuals.

Genetics is also another component, the 'wild card' that would suggest a 'weakness', as in a computer 'anti-virus' program.

The suggestion is that a matrix allows some of these disorders to develop. That is a pregnent women, with a genetic weakness, will be 'weak' to a bacterial infection, that allows another 'stress' incident to trigger the breakdown.

Rather than a simple cause, it is a 'matrix' effect.

--Caesar J. B. Squitti  : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 03:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Caesar, please stop making these vague statements. PPA intoxication seems rare (37 cases since 1960), and your odd reference to "half-truths" etc etc makes you sound like a crank. JFW | T@lk 11:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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Pathogens

Are there any mental illnesses that are caused by pathogens? Virus, bacterial infections etc... 12.215.47.79 (talk) 05:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Typo: lifespan.in

Here's a puzzle for an expert. I found a typo, but I can't figure out how to correct it by context alone. I've researched this as far as I can -- would someone who has electronic access to the literature please check the referenced article and correct the typo? The typo revolves around the word "lifespan.in". It's not clear whether (a) the period should be a comma, or (b) a sentence fragment is missing after the period. This section contains the typo. The typo was introduced on 16 Jun 2007 by user User:Chupper, who is no longer active at Wikipedia. See the changes (the diff page) here. Thanks, 172.190.142.11 (talk) 02:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Not only was there a typo, but the sentence had terrible grammar - its still not good but at least I've made it readable. Thanks for helping! DR04 (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Class Assignment

Hi,I will be editing this article as part of my senior psychology lab course.

14:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC) user: Mlsteele92 I have been working on editing this article for the past few weeks in my Sandbox. If any other editors have input on what you would like me to add/change please let me know. The basic changes I am working on is the overall organization of the article (changing the sections & sub-sections), expanding on the information, and making the wording of the article less technical.

Mlsteele92 (talk) 14:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Here are the changes I made to this article:

• Condensed introduction section: Made the subsections of biological, psychological and environmental factors contributing to mental disorders and also made the wording less technical and better comprehensible.
• Created sub-sections for each theory in order to better organize the information. Under General Theories I added information on the history of mental disorders and created the subsections of psychoanalytic theories (added information on the id, ego, superego, developmental stages, and fixation), evolutionary psychology (further explained the theory), attachment theory (added types of attachment), medical model, and factors affecting choice in models.
• Created the section of biological factors and included the subsections of genes, pregnancy and birth (added information on the effects of a preterm birth), divided the subsection of disease injury and infection to disease and infection, then injury (added information on the different types of head trauma and their impacts on cognitive functioning), added the subsection of brain tumors (explained the different types and symptoms associated with them), and moved the subsections of structure of the brain and drug intake under this section.
• Created the section of psychological factors and added the subsections of severe psychological trauma (explained information about types of trauma and their effects), neglect (explained), and moved the subsection of other to this section.
• Created the section of environmental factors and created the subsection of life events emotional stress, relationships, community and culture (re-worded the first sentence), and individual characteristics. All of these subsections had all been clumped into one.
• Most of my work had to do with re-organizing the article into logical sections and subsections. I also added information to the subsections that were lacking adequate content. I will continue to add information to this article and would appreciate input on what I should add/change/omit. Mlsteele92 (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Incorrectly Cited Source

"Genetics are thought to account for 40% of a person’s susceptibility to mental disorders while psychological and environmental factors account for the other 60%."

Reviewing the cited source for the information I find that it states these numbers are for depression, not mental illness as a whole.

The cited source states "At present, genetic factors are thought to account for about 40% of a person's risk of depression, with environmental factors and personal temperament accounting for the remaining 60%." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alantrulock (talk • contribs) 20:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

The evolutionary psychology section misrepresents the intention of the author cited [32]. It seems that this citation is meant to refer to the last 3 sentences of this section. The 3rd to last sentence refers to paragraph 1 of the source, but the author isn't supporting this view. The author was explaining how evolutionary psychologists define themselves in order to spend the rest of the paper arguing that there's consensus among experts in every relevant field that the existing body of research on evolutionary psychology fails to demonstrate an understanding of the basic principals of Darwin's theory of evolution, biology, psychology, empirical research and causation. I don't see any reference to the 2nd to last sentence in the source. The last sentence is inconsistent with both evolutionary psychology and the source it's attributed to. Delete? Permstrump (talk) 01:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Need to separate theories here from actual research results

JCJC777

I agree, but not sure which ones exactly you're referring to since there already is a section for theories. Off the top of my head, attachment theory and evolutionary psychology should maybe be combined into a new subsection for controversial theories or something like that. I think it would be responsible to acknowledge that those are highly disputed and aren't widely accepted. Permstrump (talk) 06:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Unreferenced possible original reseach section

Where did the section "Shortcomings in psychiatric care" come from? It cites no sources and sounds like Original Research to me. MrBill3 (talk) 16:26, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Attachment theory

The attachment theory subsection says that attachment theory has been applied to mental disorders, but then does not describe how this has been done, in any way. All text after the first sentence is off-topic tangential text about what attachment theory is. How does attachment theory explain the etiology of mental disorders? ParticipantObserver (talk) 08:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

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