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The link to "millionaire art collector Peter Watson" actually links to some Australian clergyman.

This should probably be sorted. I don't know how.

Sorted. I created a stub for Peter Watson, who is quite a bit more significant culturally than the Aussie bishop, seeing as how he founded both the ICA and Horizon magazine, which were pretty important in mid-century. The stub's pretty raw but it'll do as a placeholder until someone who knows more than me can fill him out. I've been adding a few people from the midecentury Paris boho scene that revolved around James Baldwin, and Watson is a primary member of the Anglo contingent -- Cyril Connolly, Beaton, etc.Fnarf999 03:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Added the fact that Beaton won Oscars for Gigi and My Fair Lady. Need a lot more info on his stage and screen design, which was very influential. Will add as time permits unless someone else wants to jump in.

In the US at least Beaton is better known for costume design than photography. PKM 21:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Affair with Gary Cooper

Somebody removed text about Beaton having an affair with Gary Cooper. This sounds very familiar, and I think it might have been mentioned in the recently released "Unexpurgated Diaries". Can anyone say for sure? Patrick925 18:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

It is mentioned in Cooper's entry in "Halliwell's Who's Who in the Movies" (2006 edition).

Possibly copyvio

It seems like some of the confusing text about the Duchess of Amalfi derives directly in phrasing from the Fyne Times article. This wikipedia article could use some rewriting and better sources.--Larrybob (talk) 08:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

سیسیل بیتون Cicil Beaton

Cicil Beaton (1904-1980) جسور و شیک در عکاسی مد

سرسیسیل والترهاردی بیتون بیشتر بخاطر عکسهای پرتره¬ای که از خانواده سلطنتی انگلستان و همین¬طور ستاره¬های مشهور بین¬المللی گرفت مطرح و شناخته شده است؛ اما فعالیت این هنرمند پرکار تنها در عکاسی خلاصه نمی¬شد، وی علاوه بر عکاسی، به عنوان نویسنده و تصویرگرکتاب، طراح صحنه¬ی آثار نمایشی، طراح لباس و صحنه¬ی فیلم نیز کار می¬کرد . بیتون که دانش¬آموخته¬ی مدرسه خصوصی هارو و کمبریج بود، چهاردهم ژوئن سال 1904 در لندن و در خانواده¬ای نسبتاً مرفه متولد شد. پدرش والتر هاردی بیتون تاجر الوار و مادرش اتی سیسون بود و دو خواهر به نامهای نانسی و بابا و یک برادر به نام ریگی داشت. بیتون در کودکی توسط پرستارش که یک دوربین کداک A3 داشت، یادگیری اصول عکاسی را آغاز کرد. او پس از رسیدن به مهارت کافی عکسهایش را برای مجلات اجتماعی لندن ارسال میکرد؛ اغلب با نامی مستعار زیر آنها را امضا میکرد و قید میکرد «اثر بیتون» . اولین عکسی که از بیتون منتشر شد در مجله¬ی ووگ بود. این عکس به گفته¬ی خودِ بیتون «عکس فوری و تار و مبهمی بود که در آن بازیگر نقش دوشس مالفی زیر نورِ فضای بیرون دستشویی مردانه¬ی تئاترADC (همچون نوری که زیر آب دیده می¬شود) در کمبریج ایستاده بود» پس از دوره¬ای که در استودیوی «پاول تنکواری» هنر عکاسی را بصورت حرفه¬ای می¬آموخت و همزمان با استخدام رسمی¬اش در مجله¬ی ووگ در سال 1927، استودیوی شخصی خود را برپا کرد. در سال 1935 طراحی صحنه¬ی تئاتر و در سال 1941 کار بر روی فیلمها را آغاز کرد و به خاطر روان بودن و ظرافت طراحی لباسش برای فیلم ژی¬ژی (آمریکا، به کارگردانی وینسنت مینلی،1957) و بانوی زیبای من (آمریکا، به کارگردانی جرج کاکر، 1964) و بعدها کارگردانی هنری¬اش برنده¬ی جایزه¬ی اسکار شد. در سال 1957 درجه¬ی ارتشی CBE را دریافت کرد و در سال 1972 در زمینه¬ی عکاسی لقب شوالیه گرفت . در طول جنگ جهانی دوم، بیتون به وزارت اطلاعات اعزام شد و وظیفه¬ی ثبت تصاویری از خط مقدم جبهه¬¬ی خودی به وی سپرده شد. در مدت این مأموریت بیتون یکی از ماندگارترین عکسها از رنج و عذاب انگلیسی¬ها در جنگ را ثبت کرد. عکسی از قربانی سه¬ساله¬ی نبرد «بلیتز» ، «آیلین دون» دختربچه¬ای که بر تخت بیمارستان، خرس عروسکی¬اش را محکم به آغوش گرفته بود . «ماریو تستینو» که جامعه¬ی مدرن را به تصویر کشیده و مد را به اندازه¬ی بیتون متنوع کار کرده، می¬گوید: «او به گونه¬ای دورانش را شاخص کرد که گویی تنها عکاس آن دوران بوده است» . یکی دیگر از مشهورترین عکاسان مد امروزه «نیک نایت» کار او را بخاطر زیبایی و ظرافتش اینگونه ستایش میکند: «از تصاویر گیرا و جالب خواهرانش و ژستهای ظریف و شکننده¬ی مدلهای زیبارویان اجتماع در عکسهایش گرفته تا تصاویر به یادماندنی دوران جنگ، همیشه انسانی حساس و احساسی بود» . بیتون در نقش فردی که توسط دوستش «ترومن کاپوتی» به یک انسان تماما خودساخته توصیف شده بود، خود میدانست که چنین سیسیل بودنی شوخی نبود بلکه چیزی بود که برای رسیدن به آن به پافشاری جدی نیاز داشته است. در واقع در مورد اخلاق و رفتار بیتون صحبتهای بسیاری هست از بی¬توجهی به دیگران گرفته تا سوء استفاده از سوژه¬ها تا آنجا که گفته می¬شود حتی با ملکه¬ی بریتانیا نیز چنین رفتاری داشت، اما با وجود همه¬ی این رفتارها، از خلاقیت و کیفیت کار وی نمی¬توان گذشت. سیسیل بیتون در طول دوران فعالیتش بیش از 40 کتاب منتشر کرده که 6 جلد آن شامل خاطرات زندگی خودش بین سالهای 1922 تا 1974 می¬باشد. نکته¬ای که در مورد خاطرات بیتون ذکر می¬شود اینست که به دلیل ترس از اتهامات ناروا در زندگی¬اش، بیان صریح و بی¬پرده¬ی برخی از مشاهداتش را بی¬ملاحظگی می¬پنداشت و در نوشته¬هایش تناقضاتی از قبیل مکانهای برخی رخدادها به چشم می¬خورد، اما اخیراً تعدادی از این خاطرات بصورت سانسور نشده منتشر شده است . بیتون در سال 1974 دچار سکته¬ی مغزی شد که منجر به فلج شدن سمت راست بدنش برای تمام عمر گردید. در اواخر دهه¬ی 1970 با پیرشدنش سلامتش رو به زوال نهاد و در نهایت در ژوئن سال 1980 شب هنگام در خانه¬اش در «ردیش هاوس» ، در براد چاکِ ویلت شایر و در سن 76 سالگی جان سپرد .

گردآوری و ترجمه: رضا قاسمی زرنوشه — Preceding unsigned comment added by R.zarnoosheh (talk • contribs) 09:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Google translate renders this text (somewhat indaquately) as:

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Are you recommending that a better translation of this be added to the article? Dbfirs 11:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Length of Archive

The article text says "Cecil Beaton Papers, 1904–1980 (0.4 linear feet) are housed at Princeton University Library". Surely there is something awry here? It must be much more than 0.4 linear feet?TWAMWIR (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

It means five inches of shelf space, of course, and the amount of text depends on cow compressed it is, but I agree that rather more might be expected from 76 years. I would guess that the collected papers are just his diaries. Dbfirs 11:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The papers at Princeton are chiefly correspondence with his friend and colleague Hal Burton. The majority of Beaton's letters and, all his diaries and other papers, are to be found at St John's College, Cambridge. I've amended the article accordingly. Eartha78 (talk)18:29, 06 August 2013

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"the Queen recommended him to the Ministry of Information" - which queen?

The word "Queen" is linked to Elizabeth II. I would have expected it to mean Elizabeth, queen consort of George VI of Great Britain in this context. I don't have access to the source. William Avery (talk) 12:56, 8 January 2016 (UTC)