Talk:Chess opening theory table

This article was nominated for deletion on 13 August 2005 (UTC). The result of the discussion was KEEP.

Original research?[edit]

Isn't this origninal research? I've never seen this before. Themindset 06:15, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, it only gets one hit on google, and it's an accident. This needs to be established elsewhere before being placed on wikipedia, therefore I will nominate for WP:VfD

In addition to the numerous opening books that use this format, a simple search discovered that Opening Theory tables are discussed (and capitalized) here, here, here, here, here, and here. ThreeE 17:34, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is not original research. Several well known books (some mentioned in the article) present opening theory using this familiar format. Currently, only a few Wikipedia/books articles/books use this standard approach, but those that do can now link to this single article to provide an explanation of the format. This will keep all the articles from having to provide explanations.ThreeE 17:50, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The current version of this article needs additional explanation -- it will come eventually... ThreeE 17:50, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if someone that understands the wiki table syntax would help format the table. I think the two referenced books are the gold standard for these type of tables. An example of one of these tables is viewable online on page 6 of Modern Chess Openings (MCO) -- although the MCO rotates the table 90 degrees from the example provided in the article -- i.e., variations are presented in columns rather than in rows. ThreeE 02:36, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have now updated the table. ThreeE 17:50, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vote for Deletion[edit]

This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 02:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Table[edit]

Someone care to explain the numbers in the table? I figured out the moves, but does the percentages mean win for white? black? or Draw? and what about the number to the left of the %'s. 128.6.175.75 20:05, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers indicate the white's chances. 100% means white always wins, 50% means even, 0% means black always wins -- at least for the games being considered. ThreeE 03:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But his second question: What about the number to the left of the percentages? 76.111.8.39 (talk) 08:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that the numbers to the immediate left of the percentages reflects the number of games in the database using that particular opening variation. Hence, "28: 63 %" would meen that of 28 games in the database, 63 % was won by White. But I might be wrong... :-) Tommy Kronkvist talk contribs 14:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the table's 4th variation, White's 3rd move is blank. Folks who are just beginning to learn chess notation might interpret that blank spot as part of the notation itself, but the large majority will realize it's just an oversight. The main problem is that it just looks bad. It lessens the effectiveness of the article slightly because some people will assume, "if there's one mistake, there's probably more. If anyone knows what move should be in that blank spot, please add it to the table. Toadspring (talk) 04:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]