Talk:Chestertown Armory

Chestertown Armory is currently an Art and architecture good article nominee. Nominated by Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} at 19:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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A fact from Chestertown Armory appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Washington College is investigating the possibility of turning the Chestertown Armory into a bed and breakfast?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chestertown Armory.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Chestertown Armory was the site of home basketball games for Washington College from 1934 until the 1950s?
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- Comment: will do qpq and find a better hook

5x expanded by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 11:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Expanded by 5x, barely. Article is also long enough and Earwig doesn't reveal any problems. Hook is short enough, accurate and supported by in-line citation. Two issues to be resolved before this can be passed: (1) needs a QPQ, and (2) the hook is not particularly hooky, and you indicated that you would be willing to find a better hook. Ping me when these are done. Cbl62 (talk) 01:12, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guerillero and Cbl62: Maybe a hook about it being planned to be turned into a bed and breakfast would be a better option? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:38, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guerillero: You indicated on Aug 19 that you would do a QPQ and come up with a better hook. I'm still available if you want to do those things. Cbl62 (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's been over a week since the review, but despite two reminders a QPQ has not been provided. As such the nomination is marked for closure on technical grounds. The nomination can resume if a QPQ is provided and the hook issue raised above is addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was pinged by the reviewer 3 days ago. QPQ for you and alt 1 is below. --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that Washington College plans on turning the Chestertown Armory into a bed and breakfast?

Thank you. This is ready for a new review. @Cbl62: Can you take another look at this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guerillero: QPQ is done, but the alt1 hook isn't supported by the source. The source does not say that there is a "plan" to convert the armory into a B&B. (A "plan" is "a detailed proposal for doing or achieving something.") The article describes more of a generic rumination/discussion: "The college has had discussions with several interested parties about eventually converting the approximately 20,700-square-foot armory building into a bed and breakfast." Accordingly, and as phrased, alt1 is not accurate. Cbl62 (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1a ... that Washington College is exploring turning the Chestertown Armory into a bed and breakfast?

ALT 2 ... that the Chestertown Armory is officially named after a Chestertown, Maryland resident who landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day?

ALT 3 ... that the Maryland Army National Guard used the Chestertown Armory from 1932 until it was declared surplus in 2005?

Do any of these three alts please you, Cbl62 --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 12:45, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is not one of pleasing me, but rather one of accuracy. Alt 1a is accurate and sufficiently hooky. Alts 2 and 3 are OK as well (though less hooky IMO). I did fix the typos in alts 2 and 3. Cbl62 (talk) 13:06, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Nominator: Guerillero (talk · contribs) 19:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Bruxton (talk · contribs) 20:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First look[edit]

Lead[edit]

? Consider changing "After the 115th Infantry Regiment" to "When the"

? Consider changing "to Washington College in 2013. Since then, it has stood vacant" to "to Washington College in 2013; since then, it has stood vacant"

Architecture[edit]

? Since we are describing a building we should probably use more details from citations 2 (there is more info about the building in there). Maybe other sources which describe the building or design?

? I might also consider changing the name of the section to design and consider moving the section below the planning section so that it is chronological.

I was following the general format of recent FAs such as Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House. --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? Do we know who the architecture or designer was? Looks like Carl is not the the architect? It looks like from the source he was the general contractor/builder - maybe that too should be spelled out in the article.

A name has appeared in the local paper in editorials starting in 2022, but I can't find it in contemporaneous sources or in the reporting part of the paper --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? This sentence should be rewritten "After a year, due to trouble securing plans, Maryland awarded contract to erect the building Carl Schmidt", It is missing words. Also I think we need more context about the "trouble". I also do not like the use of "due to".

"Owning to delay in securing plans" is all the Wilmington Journal says --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Planning and construction[edit]

? You could Consider US$$50,000 at first occurrence. Note that is not required by MOS:$ but I generally do it.

No. The article makes it clear that the subject is within the United States --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

? Consider whether this section can be developed into more than the three sentence with other sources.

I will dig some more, but 1930s newspapers are the best sources we have and they don't say much --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Guard use[edit]

? Consider 3,700 square foot should be hyphenated - but better than that would be a conversion template: 3,700 sq ft (340 m²)

Done --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 19:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transfer and Washington College ownership[edit]

? In this sentence "In 2013, the Chestertown Armory was transferred to Washington College.[19] The structure continues to sit vacant." - there is no setup for when or how the building was first left vacant. Consider adding the information.

? Consider rewriting "studies of the building showing extensive mold in the building that would make remediation unfeasible." to "studies of the building revealed extensive mold in the building that would make remediation unfeasible."

? Consider a hyphen for "25-day"

Units[edit]

? This section is not cited. I think we need a citation here.

Images[edit]

Two images in the article and both appear to be properly licensed and free.

captions are short, descriptive and appropriate

Copyright[edit]

Earwig does not alert to plagiarism.

Citation 2 checks out

Citation 5 checks out

Citation 11 checks out

Citation 13 is offline AGF

Citation 18 checks out

? Please see that all of the relevant details have beenWP:MINEd from the sources in the RS.

Review table[edit]

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