Talk:Christopher Columbus High School (Miami-Dade County, Florida)

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I've removed a good portion of this article that read like a brochure. No offense to the people who've been working hard on it, but it wasn't reading very much like an encyclopedia article. At least it's more of a stub at the moment. Bastique▼parler voir 19:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the list of clubs — it's not particularly verifiable, would be very hard to keep up to date (clubs start up and disband all the time), and like you said, it just doesn't seem appropriate in an encyclopedia article. --Cyde Weys 19:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depth of Article[edit]

This article has to be expanded. Most of the alumni are not referenced. We need to amplify the scope of the article not only in detail, but also in the overall purview of the school.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.184.162.219 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 12 June 2007

List of famous alumni, clubs?[edit]

What happened to the list of important people that graduated from CCHS? This page had a lot of useful good information, But it seems to have been deleted. If having a list of Clubs is not like an encyclopedia article and reads like an ad, then why do other high school's encyclopedia articles have a list of clubs? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.188.116.196 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

They should be deleted from those articles as well. —Centrx→talk • 18:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Raoul G. Cantero, III[edit]

  • Raoul G. Cantero, III is notable because he is a justice of the Florida Supreme Court not because of who his grandparents or parents might be.. That information should be placed in his article (which it is) not here.. Only the name of the person, the year of his graduation and what his occupation is or what makes him notable.Callelinea 18:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to whom? I think it's totally relevant to mention that Cantero is an influential member of society. One side being his profession, the other being his status as the descendent of Cuba's oligarchic elite. 66.184.162.219
  • Why do you think he is notable? Many people graduate from high school who are members from prominent families. It is what someone does with their life that makes them notable. Raul is notable because he is the first Cuban-American to sit on the Florida Supreme Court. Callelinea 16:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Abram Rodriguez[edit]

It may be an inconvenient truth that a gay porn star graduated from Columbus, but that gives no cause for his removal from the alumni page. 66.184.162.219

I have no problem with him being in your list of notable alumni of CCHS but as an actor. If you wish to place him there as a "porn Actor" then you need to have proof that he (the porn actor) has stated somewhere that he attended CCHS or if you have a picture of him from your yearbook from that year scan it and send it to me or to another editor with a copy of the porn actor to verify that both persons are the same. Otherwise the entry can only state that he is an actor. Articles that relate to living persons have different rules as to articles about dead persons. I hope this info is helpful.Callelinea 16:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
He is actually the Vice President of a healthcare organization called Florida healthcare plus but I'm sure he's flattered by the state ment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.92.78.36 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 14 February 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

Felipe Sixto[edit]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iGBJHqv60refHKGurH5oK0iEHkvAD8VMLJK81 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.148.144 (talk) 03:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proper references for alumni[edit]

Two years after 66.184.162.219 commented on it, most of the alumni are still not referenced as having attended the school. Here's a start, with some URLs but it's a big job to condense all of these into proper {{citation}}s: http://www.columbushs.com/News_murciano09.asp Enrique Murciano

http://www.columbushs.com/content/top50catholic04.pdf Ray Rodriguez

http://www.columbushs.com/content/top50catholic04.pdf Raoul G. Cantero, III

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/051006/story5.shtml http://www.columbushs.com/alumni/newsletter/Fall05.pdf Jorge Mas Santos

http://www.columbushs.com/alumni/newsletter/Summer05.pdf Hernan Organvidez

Would any of the major authors of the page be interested in working to improve this? I think it's reasonable to use the school as a source (as above), but as a matter of principle, we should be careful using a source so close to the subject matter of the article (as opposed to an independent reference). Every person on this list ought to be cited as having attended the school, and additionally, cited for their notability (those are separate requirements). TheFeds 15:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've been enjoying my Christmas too much lately - will work on this in coming weeks! : ) NancyHeise talk 07:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

copyright tag[edit]

I removed the copyright tag because I wrote most of the page's content. I did not copy any printed document, I personally spoke to a member of the school's adminstration. While I agree that the content might need a citation needed tag in areas, it does not need a copyright tag. NancyHeise talk 22:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that the text appears at the school's website. How do we know that you are the author and/or the rightsholder of that text? —C.Fred (talk) 22:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, you are correct, I just saw that the history section had plagiarized the school website. I did not write that section but I changed the wording in the entire section to eliminate the plagiarism. The rest of the article is not word for word from the site and the sentences that I inserted are cited to that site. NancyHeise talk 01:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And now I see that you've not only removed the tag but reworded the section. Problem solved. —C.Fred (talk) 01:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lead picture[edit]

This article needs a better picture of the school in the lead. I also would like to suggest that a student might want to consider improving this article and trying to get it to Featured status. See WP:FA, WP:FAC and WP:peer review. I would be happy to assist in the process if you like. NancyHeise talk 02:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Campus size[edit]

An anonymous editor just changed the campus size from 24 to 30 acres. In the history section, the campus size is mentioned at 19 acres. Do we have a reliable source on how big the campus is? —C.Fred (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't have a specific source to offer and I was not the anonymous editor btw. However, I can tell you that the school sits on a very large piece of land owned by the Archdiocese of Miami that also includes St. Brendan Catholic Church, another Catholic High School (co-ed) and St. John Vianney Seminary. The entire piece of land is huge and while there is a fence between the co-ed school, seminary, and Columbus, there is no fence between Columbus and the Catholic Church which is also used by the school so I can see where the lines may have become fuzzy there with regard to acres. NancyHeise talk 02:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vanishing alumni[edit]

The edit on 10 July 2013 by 1234usa wiped out links to Wikipedia articles on 13 alumni, as well as links to other information about them (offices held, companies, TV shows they've worked in, etc.). Perhaps the missing links played a role in C.Fred's decision to eliminate nearly all these gentlemen from the article on 29 August, leaving Columbus with only one notable alumnus who is not an athlete. Is this wise? — Beamjockey (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just vetted the list of names, and here's what I found:
☒N Richard Blanco: No mention that he attended CCHS in his article; can't be readded if it isn't sourced.
☒N Carlos Borges: No mention in his article, no source.
checkY Raoul G. Cantero, III: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
checkY John Couriel: Mentioned in his article and sourced. Readding.
checkY Carlos A. Giménez: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
checkY Pedro José Greer: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
☒N Nelson Hernandez: No link, no source.
checkY John M. Higgins: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
checkY Jose Mas: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
checkY Enrique Murciano: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
☒N James F. O'Brien: No mention in his article, no source.
☒N Brian Regan (comedian): No mention in his article, no source.
checkY Victor E. Renuart, Jr.: Mentioned in his article but unsourced. Readding with {{cn}} tag.
☒N Ray Rodriguez: No article, no source; the link is a redirect to Univision, because he is not notable in his own right.
Arguably, the ones with the citation needed tags could be struck from this list, just as readily as the information could be struck from their articles, because it's unsourced. I've added them to the list in the hopes that somebody will find the sources to make sure the information is verifiable and can be kept. —C.Fred (talk) 16:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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