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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 04:11, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cinematic (Illy album) → Cinematic (album) – The editor who moved the article to its current title states that there were issues with mislinking to Cinematic (Adrian Borland album), a page which didn't even exist until that same editor created a redirect to it. As far as I can tell, there are no other albums titled Cinematic and since the album by Adrian Borland does not have an actual article, I am proposing that the article documenting the album by Illy be changed back to its original title: "Cinematic (album)". JayJ47 (talk) 02:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - per WP:Disambiguation and WP:Naming conventions (music). We do not disambiguate by what "titles" exist, but by content. The WP:RECENT Australian rapper's album should never have been created 06:43, 6 September 2014 at a title blocking access to a notable 1995 album which is significantly covered on the artist bio as below: In ictu oculi (talk) 05:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following year, 1995, was to be an important year for Borland; not only was the album Cinematic written and released, but his work with Carlo van Putten, Claudia Uman, Florian Brattman and David Maria Gramse in The White Rose Transmission came to fruition, with the side-project's self-titled debut appearing that year. They would continue to perform intermittently throughout the 1990s, Borland being a major contributor.[45]
Cinematic was a stablemate of Beautiful Ammunition in that it was also created in the Survival Studios and under the Resolve label,[46] yet demonstrated a further evolution in Borland's musical career. Despite being in a similar situation as regards funding, Cinematic benefited from much better, integrated production as well as punchy tracks such as "Bright White Light". With the psychological opener "Dreamfuel" a dream-like atmosphere pervaded the album, establishing itself in indolent, moody tracks like "Cinematic" and "When Can I Be Me?". It was, overall, a more coherent attempt than its predecessor, but – predictably – did not win over the public. Critical reception, however, was even more welcoming. With an Allmusic.com ranking of 4 stars the album was lauded:
"Generally quieter but no less intense than much of his '80s work, Cinematic lives up to its name more than once, with mysterious atmospheres matched by often understated but still sharply realized songs and lyrics."[47]
Simon Heavisides stated: 'Isn't it great when your old favourites don't let you down?...[it] leaves you with the feeling at the end that you want to hear the whole damn thing over again."[48] Mitch Myers wrote in 1997: 'Everybody is a star, but Borland's cinematic life is well worth watching.'[49] Glenn McDonald, however, offered up a less enthusiastic summation: 'The music had an impressive sweep to it, but the production seemed to me to emphasise the mechanical repetitiveness of the arrangements'.[50] The album also lent its name to Cinematic Overview the following year, a compilation album of Borland's work stretching all the way back to the mid seventies.

And note it was Cinematic (album) which was mislinking to the Borland album not Cinematic (Adrian Borland album) which is the placeholder redirect to correct this as well. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "Cinematic (album)" should redirect to Cinematic, to normal people, an "EP" is jargon, as is the difference between a record and an album. They are all "albums". -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 05:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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