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Isn't this actually the Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation, not "medal". — Rlevse • Talk • 17:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The medal was individually awarded to some infantry advisors attached to certain ARVN units and appears to have been awarded to some US commanders like General Westmoreland. According to the US Military award manuals, the medal wasn't authorized to be issued with the Civil Actions Unit Citation or Gallantry Cross Unit Citation (see Coast Guard manual). US Ribbon charts generally show the Gallantry Cross ribbon with a large Palm (individual award) but not a Civil Action Medal ribbon (individual award). The US Ribbon charts show both the Gallantry Cross Unit Citation and Civil Action Medal Unit Citation ribbons with a small palm and gold frame.

Civil Actions Medal, First Class (officers)
Civil Actions Medal, Second Class (enlisted personnel)
Civil Action Medal Unit Citation (first class colors, with palm and gold frame)

The Civil Actions Unit Citation Emblem was awarded and worn by members of a military unit that was cited by the RVN. The unit citation consisted of a first class color ribbon only, denoted by 2 narrow red vertical center stripes, with a small palm and gold frame; second class ribbon had no vertical center stripes. US members of cited units may not have been issued the typed unit citation with the unit citation emblem.YahwehSaves (talk) 16:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed this negative commentary in the article. I have removed these comments to the apropriate place: here on the talk page Scapler (talk) 11:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is: There are at least two serious errors in fact in this article. The first is in the use the term Civil Action vice Civic Action, the proper name for this military award is the Civic Action Medal not the Civil Action Medal^[1] even though the effort may fall under the auspices of the Civil Affairs Officer of a unit. The second is in regards to the U.S. Marine forces in Vietnam putting down civil unrest. At no time during the Vietnam Conflict were U.S. Marines used to quell civil unrest, that was a South Vietnamese issue which the were very capable of handling. The very concept of military civic action requires military units to be involved with local communities and their leaders. U.S. Marine units in Vietnam often ran Medical Civic Action Patrols or MedCaps during which U.S. Navy Corpsmen assigned to the Marines, treated the local population for various medical problems, ranging from intestinal worms to gun shot wounds. Also Marines were involved in building or repairing schools, roads, sanitation facilities, and communications. The U.S. Marine Corps was the one military service who actually "got it" when it came to getting involved with the local inhabitants to assist them in bettering their lot in life, or protecting them from the Viet Cong who stole their rice and kidnapped their young men for military service. To imply that the Marines were awarded the Civic Action Medal or ribbon for putting down civil unrest conjures up images of a South American or a third world military doing the bidding of some "two bit" dictator.

The original 1964 medal could have been named the, Civic Action Medal, since there were official changes made by decree concerning the medal in 1965 and 1967 according to the Republic of Vietnam Medals and Decorations 1967, RVN booklet. YahwehSaves (talk) 06:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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^ US Army Regulation 600-8-22 para 9–24. Republic of Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation The unit citation of the Civil Actions Unit Citation is awarded by the Vietnamese government for meritorious service. The award of the Civil Actions Unit Citation, First Class, is accompanied with Oak Leaf Clusters. The Palm used in the Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation is the Oak Leaf device and is worn with the stem to the wearer’s right.

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[1] US Army Regulation 600-8-22 para 9–24. Republic of Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation The unit citation of the Civil Actions Unit Citation is awarded by the Vietnamese government for meritorious service. The award of the Civil Actions Unit Citation, First Class, is accompanied with Oak Leaf Clusters. The Palm used in the Gallantry Cross with Palm Unit Citation is the Oak Leaf device and is worn with the stem to the wearer’s right.

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