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January 29, 2008	Articles for deletion	Kept
June 22, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
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Large Scale Aggressor[edit]

On the Cloverfield Special Investigation Mode of the BlueRay disk for Cloverfield the monster is called the "Large Scale Aggressor," or, "LSA" for short. [1] That should probably be the name for this article. --Is this fact...? 02:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that this is "probably" right conclusion. Although you have a reliable source where it is refered to as such, "Clover" does as well. I think "Clover" is preferred according to ~~WP:COMMON~~WP:COMMONNAME and remains that way until the creature is commonly referred to as "Large Scale Aggressor". Further, I believe "Large Scale Aggressor" is a generic term, and in this fictional universe, it could be used to refer to any large scale aggressor. -Verdatum (talk) 17:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special Investigation Mode[edit]

I'm really new to anything Wikipedia-related besides reading the articles, so this may be a stupid post. I just post this because I'm not too sure on how to edit a page and make the information I have fit into the article well. Anyway, on the special investigation mode of the recent Blu-Ray release of Cloverfield, a lot of information is given regarding the creature and the parasites, such as size, origins, and biology. I'm going to try to incorporate as much of the relevant information as I can, but I hope a more experienced editor can maybe clean it up some once I finish, or add anything I missed. 70.57.253.164 (talk) 09:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edited to say, I can't edit this article. My account is only a day old, and I don't remember my login anyway. A link to the Special Investigation transcript is here: [2] for anybody willing to do the edits to make the article more informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.253.164 (talk) 09:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Lead needs expansion... no mention of reception, etc.
Newspaper/magazine publishers in refs need italics. (random example; Boston Globe)
"The creature was realized by visual effects supervisor Kevin Blank and Phil Tippett's company Tippett Studio." - was realized by? Not sure what that's supposed to mean...
"Abrams described the creature as a "baby"" - does this need to be quoted?

Overall an interesting read. Leave me a note when done please. Cheers, giggy _(:O) 05:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the things you have noted. Let me know if you have more, or if it meets the GA standard. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 06:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first point makes no sense. They want a description of the reception of a monster? The last two points are nonsensical. 'Was realised by' is perfectly good English, and if Abrams himself is being quoted, why shouldn't there be quote marks? It's not like a 30-storey monstrosity is the image that springs to mind for the word 'baby.' Herr Gruber (talk) 17:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This GAN has passed, and this is now a good article! If you found this review helpful, please consider helping out a fellow editor by reviewing another good article nomination. Help and advice on how to do so is available at Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles, and you can ask for the help of a GAN mentor, if you wish.

Cheers, giggy _(:O) 06:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hasbro Stopping Cloverfield Toy Production[edit]

I recently heard that Hasbro stopped production of the Cloverfield toy has stopped production. Can anyone tell me if this is true or not? ---- Iconic_D December 5th, 2008, 9:11PM (UTC)

no its out now you can get it if you want its avallible on the internet im getting one soon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloverbeatme!! (talk • contribs) 00:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clover as name of creature[edit]

The term's use is extremely limited... used only as a nickname among the production staff. The context of the movie dose not name the creature. Using the term is very casual, inside and fan geek. WP:JARGON applies here. We should not use the "nickname" casually throughout the article. Noting the nickname in the first paragraph, or in the context of production is sufficient. --Knulclunk (talk) 13:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Going by your reasoning, it's not valid that the article is named "Clover", to which I'm not sure I disagree. Perhaps it should be called "Cloverfield creature" or something along those lines. --uKER (talk) 15:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That was a debate shortly after the movie came out, see the archives. We should not allow the article's current, compromised title lead us to poor editorial prose. "Clover" is fine in the context of a production element, but not as a plot or character element.--Knulclunk (talk) 15:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for discussing as I requested, Knulclunk. Now that I see your reasoning, I don't have any problem with this. As you said, it can continue to be called "Clover" in context of production and design. And even though it doesn't end up affecting the wording of the current revision, I seem to recall that the packaging for the Hasbro toy referred to the toy as "Clover" (can't confirm, don't really care too much). -Verdatum (talk) 17:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a receipt some guy got when buying him, and it refers to it as "Cloverfield movie monster". --uKER (talk) 18:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification on edits[edit]

I just wanted to go on record to say that I intended to undo the doings of a previous editor who blanked the article turning it into a redirect, and I actually did, only to later accidentally undo myself, redoing the changes I intended to revert. Sorry about that. --uKER (talk) 15:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clover's Amphibious Nature[edit]

I'm going to remove "[NOTE:THE MONSTER IS NOT AMPHIBIOUS]" from the creature design section. It doesn't stylistically fit. The first sentence after this, the "note" is contradicted. Pizzini3000 (talk) 05:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Community reassessment[edit]

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Result: As noted, this article does have problems with sourcing and the writing style. Improvements have not been made yet, and there has been no objection to delisting.Challenger.rebecca (talk) 13:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I happen to bump in to this article fairly recently and was quite shocked to find out that this was promoted to GA status even though a number of claims in the article require citations. This shouldn't be listed for now until those citation templates (and that one that requests a clarification) are resolved. Blue sphere 06:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delist: The article is not substantive, the lead does not touch base on main points, the content is largely in-universe and the one external link is for the film and not Clover. DARTHBOTTO_talk•cont 07:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]