Talk:Colonia del Valle

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Please do not add unencyclopedic material[edit]

A series of similar IPs (201.141.XXX.XX) have been adding unencyclopedic material to this article. Refer to the core content policies regarding neutral point of view, original research, verifiability. Also refer to the manual of style for help in the article format. Thank you. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  22:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Del Valle is not a neighborhood in Mexico is called "Colonias" perhaps elsewhere in the world like Califoria are called neighborhoods but in Mexico and not , of whatever opinion article should know the place of this talk, the person who wrote all this information that was erased is a person who knows of where speech and therefore can state that the information may not be in extrernas publications, but the inhabitants that has recurred en they can confirmed in her and iclusive of the country and the foreigner recidents of such europeans and Asian and others . 04/08/2011 Thank you and please take the advice.

A "colonia" in Mexico City is akin to "neighborhood" in English. This is the English Wikipedia, thus we use English terms, otherwise the reader might find it confusing. Also, as insightful and informative as fist-hand knowledge a user might have about a subject, Wikipedia does not allow original research. Thus, information should be found in external sources, otherwise it will be removed from the project. Thank you. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  20:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

World Trade Center (Mexico)[edit]

World Trade Center Mexico City is not located in this neighborhood. It's located in Napoles neighborhood, and its address cited on their website is:

Filadelfia S/N Col. Napoles Delegación. Benito Juárez
CP. 03810 México, Distrito Federal

-- Marco Guzman, Jr  Chat  00:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifications[edit]

Well, such in past editations, the zone was ranked in 2005 and was placed in that that place beacauce, the zone is full of potentates, politics, etc. and beacauce is located in the south center of the city and is more easy access to the gangs, but the government of the city take the problem and resolved; and one time for one of that reasons put the army in the streets of the district to get them out there. Oh and if we talk about of dangerously zones, in Polanco it was killed three persons in Homer street and in Santa Fe about a few meters of the comercial zone it is killed a lot of people of upscale class and stolen so wen you talk about this talk with basses. Thank you.--Joseprzprz86 (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add well-referenced material to the "Colonia Polanco" article. Here, we are discussing "Colonia del Valle", and in the context of the "Colonia del Valle" article, mentioning what happens in other neighborhoods is out the scope. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk  00:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's here, read please[1]. And please don't erase my editions. And yes is matter beacuse we are talking about upscale zones with they own insecure problems, right... So ¡YES! is it matter.--Joseprzprz86 (talk) 00:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That article reinforces the notion that Colonia del Valle is an unsafe neighborhood. Far from the illusion you have that it's a prestigious neighborhood, the story says that the Mexican Army conducted raids to rule out drug-related violence; however, violence has and does exist in the neighborhood despite the fact that it might not come from drug-related activities.-- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk  00:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ <http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n1941668.htm>

Lack of sources[edit]

Joseprzprz86 has added considerable content without sourcing the information and some of the content seems to be more suitable for a tourist's guide or promotional brochure. Additionally, the grammar of the content is lacking in some places. I believe the appropriateness of these changes need to be discussed. Regards Tiderolls 17:44, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In one single edit, Joseprzprz86 removed seven cited sources. Here are some of the editor's potential (using the duck test) IP aliases in chronological descending order:
-- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk  16:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The last talk with you[edit]

This will be the last time that I'm gonna discuss with you Marcos Guzman and else's . Just stop the attacks agains this page because it are attacks you know you can't keep supporting an a lie and you know why. I'll tell you this last resurce tha I put and that I'm supporting is a thrustful and prestigeus information this is from Exelcior newspaper one of the most again "prestigious" in the country and in fact the article is of how "prestigious" and loveit is the district for the city and the country specialty the city. I hope that be of your pleasantness.--Joseprzprz86 (talk) 15:18, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It has been the first time, in over two years of editing, that you present an actual source. Per Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view, both views should be presented. The article you cite from Excelsior has a good amount of information regarding the neighborhood's history. Nonetheless, Colonia del Valle HAS ALSO BEEN DESCRIBED AS DANGEROUS AS TEPITO AND COLONIA DOCTORES. That's a fact. There are policies in place to prevent the use of terms that introduce bias, and the usage of phrases and words such as "prestigious neighborhood" or "plus-valued" add nothing but bias to the article. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk  15:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 April 2013[edit]

SO FALSE 189.146.138.101 (talk) 01:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 April 2013[edit]

the information that is given is incorrect!. Because is based on an article for ill repute in the colony and you did not make a proper research 189.146.138.101 (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please state the edit you request specifically; include the source for your change. Tiderolls 01:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crime: are there any other sources?[edit]

Are there any other sources that discuss del Valle's high crime rate with respect to other parts of the DF? For my part, I'm extremely skeptical, because the one source isn't very good: it's all numerator (raw number of crimes) and no denominator (per resident, per square km, per residence, or per something else useful). Without a denominator the figures provided are useless.

I think that, if additional sources can't be provided, the parts of this article calling out del Valle's crime rate ought to be deleted. --Maw (talk) 23:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crime: newer sources[edit]

The statistics which were consulted to characterize Del Valle as particularly crime-ridden are from 2009. 2012 stats reveal the 6 highest crime areas in Mexico City (by police zone or "coordinación territorial") as:

  1. Benito Juárez 4, colonias Portales Norte and Sur, Santa Cruz Atoyac, Letrán Valle and San Simón Ticumac.
  2. Cuauhtémoc 6, much of the Historic Center
  3. Venustiano Carranza 1, colonias such as Merced, Morelos, Michoacana, Popular Rastro and Valle Gómez.
  4. Álvaro Obregón 1, incl. colonias Plateros, Santa Lucía, Jajalpa, Emperadores and Torres de Potrero
  5. Cuauhtémoc 2, colonia Guerrero until Tlatelolco.
  6. Cuauhtémoc 8 - colonias Doctores, Buenos Aires, Obrera, Tránsito and Paulino Navarro.

Letrán Valle is in the list, the Del Valle colonias are not...

I am planning on introducing some structure and consistency in the main neighborhood articles for Mexico City so will try to update the crime information as part of that effort. Keizers (talk) 02:38, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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