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Article Style[edit]

I find this page very difficult to read and understand. It's too dry and academic. Could someone rewrite this in a more reader-friendly way please? Mandel 21:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This artical follows the standard format for football restarts. It may seem dry and academic, however this is an encyclopaedia.

If you wish to add more information with regard to the strategy or game-play associated with corner kicks (of course in an encyclopaedic fashion) then please do so.

Cheers, --Daveb 13:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What standard format? I've been here since late 2003 and I've never seen any standard format for, what, football restart (headscratch)? Please let me know who I can officially complain about the poor structure of whatever football restart gibberish on Wikipedia.

Encyclopedias need not be dry and academic. Who'd like to read something that is either too academic or technical? There's a tag in Wikipedia for articles which are too technical, so who says Wikipedia ought to sound dry and unappetizing? A encyclopedia that is difficult to understand is a dead encyclopedia, period.

Was it cut and paste from FIFA's Laws of the Game? Of so many football articles in Wikipedia this must be one of the toughest to understand.Mandel 16:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "standard format" would be better worded "same format as the all articles on football restarts". All articles on the eight restarts used to resume play in football follow a similar format.

I don't consider the article overly technical. It succinctly summarises a) When a corner kick is awarded; b) The procedure for a corner kick; and c) What happens if the procedure is not followed. As this is an encyclopaedia so the content must be accurate (there are enough misconceptions regarding the Laws as things are); perhaps this pursuit of accuracy makes is what gives you the impression of it being overly technical. The article contains information on strategy (gameplay; non technical) and even on proposals for using corner kicks as a tiebreaker (general discusion). No, the content is not cut and pasted from the Laws (which are actually written by IFAB, not FIFA), rather the article attempts to tighten up and make more readable the Laws.

If you can make the information more "appetizing" whilst still maintaining completeness and accuracy then please have a go.

Cheers, Dave.

Merger[edit]

For the discussion on the proposed merger please see here

Lucy-marie (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Short corner into this article[edit]

I have proposed a merge of short corner, which I have just removed a proposed deletion tag from, into the main corner kick article. One problem with that article is lack of references, I am unsure if it contains original research so that would need to be resolved first, however I don't think it needs a separate article. --Snigbrook ^(talk) 00:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy merge, it is a valid term, barely notable, would serve as a relevant redirect. MickMacNee (talk) 00:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, that's what I was getting at really by proposing deletion. A short corner is barely notable in association football. The term is more commonly used in field hockey, where it is a major way of trying to score. There is already an article for that under penalty corner. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've made it into a disambiguation, as the content is unsourced I have not merged it for now. The content is still in the history if anyone wants to find sources and merge it. --Snigbrook ^(talk) 20:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scoring a goal directly from a corner[edit]

I've merged and redirected Olympic goal to here. If and when there is enough material for a standalone article the name of that article can then be debated.

I've deleted this, added a year ago:

However, opinion is divided as to whether a goal scored directly from a corner kick should be allowed to stand. FIFA states "A corner kick falls under the same guidelines as a direct free kick", meaning that goals should be allowed to stand. However, FIFA also states "A goal scored directly from a corner will not be allowed to stand unless the ball legally touches a player other than the player taking the corner before reaching the goal." As goals scored in this way have been allowed to stand, it is widely accepted that a goal scored from a corner kick should be allowed to stand.

Law 17 states, "A goal may be scored directly from a corner kick, but only against the opposing team." jnestorius^(talk) 22:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that either the rule against direct scoring from a corner has been repealed or never existed. It certainly isn't in the current FIFA laws of the game. http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame.html --Moretz (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are corner kicks with a scored goal too; those occur in very low leagues: Ball is kicked, nobody knows how to handle - and suddenly the ball moves into the goal due to the poor conditions of the field of play (a clump of grass or a very little stone could give redirection...) --213.225.0.173 (talk) 20:52, 24 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

tiebreaker[edit]

The statement that corners should never be used in any 11-a-side game as a tiebreaker assumes that the 11-a-side game is using FIFA rules. There are numerous different takes on the rules, particularly in recreational leagues, that do not entirely conform to FIFA rules. I don't know of any that use corners as a tiebreaker, but the statement seems to need qualifying.

The laws of the game are available at http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame.html as a potential citation, but that only covers FIFA compliant sanctioning bodies. --Moretz (talk) 15:11, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't appear to be any mention of this in the current version of the article although it may be worthy of mention as it does appear that corners were used as a tiebreaker historically in at least some competitions, e.g. the Fife Cup in drawn matches between 1912 and 1931. I don't know if this was a case of totting up corners awarded in the course of the game or as a shoot-out at the end of the match as a precursor to the penalty shootout. It would be interesting to know. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Defenders corner[edit]

I heard once there are sometimes corner kicks for the defending side in its own half. Does this happen, if so in what circumstances. BillMasen (talk)

No, no such concept exists -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Curiosly enough, new laws of play given on June 1st, 2016, make mention of corner kicks which may move into the own goal. Like other kicks or re-starts of the game (free kicks, goal-kicks, kick-offs, throw-ins) such a situation could lead to a corner-kick for the opponent team, therefore that fact is not new (there was no need to mention particularly). Such a corner kick crossing the field is a fiction. If you are a fan of fictions you can also mention a penalty kick which touches the crossbar and moves back into the own goal. If it would occure there is a corner kick awarded to the opponent team. All those mentioned procedures have to happen without the ball is been touched by another player... --213.225.0.173 (talk) 21:08, 24 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

BillMasen: This was historically true of the corner kick when first introduced in Sheffield Rules, and was present in association rules from 1872 to 1873. This is noted in the article's "History" section. Grover cleveland (talk) 15:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Result of a corner kick[edit]

Even a corner kick may be a good chance for the offenders, the Referee has no need to wait if there a goal is scored or defending team is able to swip away the ball. The Referee is allowed to blow the whistle for half-time or the end of the match; he can do it before a player of the offending team takes the kick or if the ball is coming from the corner mark. Such a decision may be clumsy but it is allowed for the Referee. Skilful Referees make such a whistle before the ball approaches a "torrid zone" (penalty area) and before it is to decide a corner-kick. A markable finishing a match occurred at FIFA World Cup 1978 (Brazil vs. Sweden 1-1), when Mr. Clive Thomas of Wales blew for time seconds before the ball, after Brazil's corner-kick, moved into the Swedish goal after a header of Zico. --213.225.15.186 (talk) 15:42, 25 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Why does kicker raise an arm?[edit]

Why do corner kickers (and free kickers) raise their arm before kicking? They didn't in the past but I can't remember when it became fashionable.

My first thought was that it alerts teammates that it's about to happen, however, the signal alerts opponents as well, so what's the point? Spideog (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]