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GM Canola

Note that the assertion was that canola is now a GM crop - something that's uncontested - not that it was invented by genetic modification. Waitak 15:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Use as food

The source cited here seems to be an opinion. There is no corroborating data, and the cited source cites no other article or original research. BioSciEngr (talk) 21:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Added Illustration of Cotton Plant - Still Needs Photo of the Oil

I added a classic illustration of the cotton plant for a start, but a photo (or photos) of the oil and/or the oil manufacturing process would help. So I left the reqphoto tag attached. Geoff (talk) 00:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

In response to the above editor who is searching for a photo of the actual oil, I would like to add the following photo of cottonseed oil to the page, but want to make sure I'm following proper guidelines. The photo is the property of the National Cottonseed Products Association (NCPA) - the association freely shares the photo online, with media and the public. Are there any restrictions to uploading this photo? AgExpert (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2011 (UTC) AgExpert

We need to get to the bottom of the toxicology for this oil, off the record I have read that the cyclic propene causes problems for animals then they consume it, since the hydrogenation of in fact destroys the propene ring and makes it a cyclic propane there is less cause for concern, however the pesticide problem should not be underestimated, as the laws that govern cotton growth are not the same as the laws that govern food growth. Particularly for imported seed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiwhit01 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Nutrition

Deleted this inaccurate sentence: "Cotton is not classified as a food crop, and farmers use many agrichemicals when growing it." According to Bailey's Industrial Oil and Fat Products, “Cotton is both a food (cottonseed oil) and a fiber (cotton lint) crop. For each 100 kg (220.46 lbs) of cotton fiber produced, the plant also produces about 150 kg (330.69 lbs) of cottonseed.”(Bailey’s Industrial Oil and Fat Products, Sixth Edition, Six Volume Set.Edited by Fereidoon Shahidi. Copyright # 2005 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.) AgExpert (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)AgExpert

Someone has apparently re-added the incorrect assertion that "Cotton is not classified as a food crop." In fact, EPA regulates pesticide residues on cottonseed oil, and other foods derived from cotton -- just as with other food crops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.201.250.2 (talk) 19:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Deleted this odd contribution, as the referenced study has nothing to do with cottonseed oil. Research shows that a diet containing cottonseed oil causes infertility in rats.[1] AgExpert (talk) 18:49, 4 February 2011 (UTC)AgExpert

  1. ^ Sotelo A., Montalvo I., de la Luz Crail M., and Gonzalez-Garza M. T. (1982). "Infertility in Male Rats Induced by Diets Containing Whole Cottonseed Flour". Journal of Nutrition, 112(10), 2052.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Dr. Weil webpage and quote that "cotton is not classified as a food crop, and farmers use many agrichemicals when growing it."

If you google "cottonseed oil safety", this page is the top hit http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400361/Is-Cottonseed-Oil-Okay.html and it is cited by other pages like Livestrong (http://www.livestrong.com/article/140828-what-are-dangers-cottonseed-oil/)

There is a parenthetical remark on this page, "cotton is not classified as a food crop, and farmers use many agrichemicals when growing it"

This statement is not accurate. While Dr Weill is a famous and authoratative "practitioner and teacher of integrative medicine" (http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/PAG00007/About-Weil-Lifestyle.html), he is not an agricultural expert.

The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) contains regulations for maximum pesticide residue allowed in cottonseed, as it does for all other food products. Note that cottonseed is a "commodity" as opposed to an actual food, since it processed into oil. But residues in cottonseed are regulated, hence they are in oil as well. The main section of the CFR for pesticide residues is here: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title40/40cfr180_main_02.tpl

If you look at specific tolerances (180,101ff) you will find cottonseed listed there in the commodities section.

Additionally, biotech cotton is also regulated for food safety. See here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/40/174/subpart-W

Additionally, all the major federal agencies are well aware that products from cotton, including cottonseed oil, are used in food for humans and animals. Therefore cotton production is regulated accordingly, including use of pesticides.

CFR deals with this in many places, here are a few: http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/21/173.322 http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/21/172.894 http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/21/501.110

The EPA knows it. (http://www.epa.gov/agriculture/ag101/cropmajor.html)

The FDA knows it. http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/Inspections/InspectionGuides/ucm074967.htm

The USDA knows it http://www.nass.usda.gov/Surveys/Guide_to_NASS_Surveys/Chemical_Use/FieldCropChemicalUseFactSheet06.09.11.pdf

Not sure how to deal with this problem and the proliferation of this error. Best thing I can think is to leave it, but note that it is incorrect and provide citations. Open to other suggestions!Jytdog (talk) 12:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit war

2601:7:6880:740:212:17FF:FE94:BE5E has been adding the following sentence to the article "Untreated cottonseed oil has been used in China as a male contraceptive, as its toxic components reduce motility and viability of male sperm cells if consumed. It is not approved for use in the United States for this purpose"

  • dif 1, first with this source
  • I reverted with edit note "nothing in that source about use in China as a male contraceptive. that is ugly editing. ugly"
  • IP reverted, adding a wikilink to Gossypol but otherwise leaving it the same, and now using this as a source, with edit note "t astounds me how little effort is used to check refs around here. Had that ref been read as stated in the summary, it would fllow that the other ref was available"
  • I reverted with edit note "that source does NOT say "Untreated cottonseed oil has been used in China"
  • IP reverted again, without changing anything, with edit note: "then fix it rather than reverting, whining, and being generally lazy"
  • I reverted with edit note "WP:BURDEN is on the editor who adds. WP:VERIFY is policy)"

Overall, the IP is showing no regard for WP:BRD nor for WP:VERIFY -- and demanding that other editors find sources for their content is one of the signs of an editor acting in a tendentious manner. IP, please find a reliable source for the content you want to introduce. Jytdog (talk) 11:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC) fix user ping Jytdog (talk) 15:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

references = credibility

This article (among others in the wiki world) lacks references, which would make the article at least seem credible. Please refrain from comments unless you have a reference from a respectable source (journal or an expert in the field of discussion) cited.

For those of you afraid of chemically treated foods, note that CONTINUOUS chemical processes are occurring around you and the food you eat. Trying to avoid chemically treated foods (intentional and unintentional) as a way of staying healthy is at best futile and waste consumers time on something which it's effect on health is magnitudes lesser than proper diet and exercise. Sycheuk (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Though now the Economic History section, though believable, leans overly heavily on a single source, Bailey’s Industrial Oil and Fat Products, Volume 2. One paragraph cites that source seven times, and no other. At the least, it should probably be amended to make that dependence more clear. Rufwork (talk) 14:23, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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