Talk:Counter-flows

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This article is very confusing

This article uses a lot of words to communicate a minimum of actual meaning. Having now read through it for about 15 minutes now, I still have only a vague idea what "counter-flows" actually means. The definition by Daya Kishan Thussu is so full of sociological jargon as to be completely worthless. (Do academics get paid more if their writing is completely incomprehensible by lay people?) My best guess, and my suggestion as a replacement for the definition in the lead, is:

Counter-flow (also called contraflow) refers to the movement of culture that runs counter to the traditional dominant-to-dominated ("West to rest") cultural adaptation patterns. In a contraflow situation, cultural elements brought into a society by immigrants become accepted and popular among the society at large. Examples include the world-wide popularity of telenovelas, anime and K-Pop.

From this simple opening, we can build on the history (which should not try to further define the concept; if that is required it should be moved to the lead), and then provide some examples.

Finally, I would remove the section about MS-13, since this appears to be wholly original research and does not really appear to meet the definition of contraflow as provided.

Any other readers of this page have any thoughts on this? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)