Talk:Covasna County

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Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)[edit]

in accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) page,

paragraph 2.

The lead: The title can be followed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parenthesis: {name1, name2, name3, etc.}. Any archaic names in the list (including names used before the standardization of English orthography) should be clearly marked as such, i.e.: (name1 arch.). Relevant foreign language names[3] are permitted and should be listed in alphabetic order of their respective languages, i.e.: (Armenian: name1, Belarusian: name2, Czech: name3). Alternatively, all alternative names can be moved to and explained in a names section immediately following the lead. In this case, the redundant list of the names in the article's first line should be replaced with the following text: (known also by several alternative namesNames). Once such a section or paragraph is created, the alternative English or foreign names should not be moved back to the first line.

Definition

^ The geographic location is considered to have a single widely accepted English name in modern context (swaEn) if the following two conditions are satisfied simultaneously: The English-language encyclopedias (Encyclopedia Britannica, Columbia Encyclopedia and Encarta) consistently use this name in all articles where the corresponding location is mentioned in modern context. This name obtains the largest number (75% or more of total hits considering all possible variants) of Google Scholar and Google Books hits (count only articles and books, not number of times the world is used in them) when searched over English language articles and books where the corresponding location is mentioned in modern context. If the name of the location coincides with the name of another entity, care should be taken to exclude inapropriate pages from the count.

internet hits returned 11.800 results of "Hargita county" and 154 000 results of "Harghita county". English encyclopedias consistently use the name "Harghita county"

there was a voting meant to settle this problem, concluded with 5 votes in favour of providing the HU names against 2. the relevancy of that vote is reduced to 7 people voting,


considering the relevancy of English Encyclopedias and Wikipedia naming conventions

i here by remove the names of hungarian administrative divisions provided as alternates for names of romanian administrative divisions from the lead of the article. refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) for any debate on this matter Criztu 08:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)criztu[reply]

First: What on Earth does Harghita's naming have to do with Covasna? You do not make this clear, making me wonder if you confused this Talk page with that.

Second: Is there a Hungarian name for Covasna that is different from the one used elsewhere? If so, why is it not even mentioned in the entire article, especially considering the large number of Hungarian-speakers living there?

Third: Wikipedia's Naming Conventions aren't written for what you write in leads! That's not even remotely their intended purpose! They're meant to address the question of what you should name the PAGE, with alternate names from the most common name in English intended to be referenced in the lead. You seem to have COMPLETELY misread it, either that or your English is atrocious, I don't know which. In any case Harghita is already at the most common one used in English, and mentions any other spellings, so I have no problem with that, but when you go on about "removing Hungarian names from the lead of the article", even though the Naming Conventions do practically the exact opposite of recommending that (unless there's going to be a section on the origins of any of its names, which there isn't right now), it sounds ridiculous - and also confusing, since you seem to be responding to something about Harghita, and not Covasna, which has no alternate names listed - which in context, seems like it may be an unnecessary and silly omission, but I wouldn't know, as I'm not Romanian. Can someone please explain what the hell is going on here, though? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.235.45.169 (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians, the landowners[edit]

As you see aboriginals, Romanians landowners are living in villages and don’t need Hungarians names for their settlements. Instead, newcomers settled in towns, requiring Hungarians names to replace the old Romanians names. QED

PS By the way, there are 33 communes or 39?

By the way, what you state here is insane. There's not any proof Romanians would be aboriginals, furthermore the facts shows totally the opposite. Concerning of the names and etimology, old Romanian names simply did not exist, but the origin of the names are mostly Hungarian, Slavic and German, and as well totally opposing to your statement, the newcomers borrowed/translated/rewritten/phonetically transcripted as well these names. The few original Romanian settlement names emerged at first in the medieval ages. Please check any toponyms before you state a ridicoulous nonsense.(KIENGIR (talk) 23:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC))[reply]

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