Talk:Creation and evolution in public education in the United States

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I don't really know how to use the Wikipedia format, but I flagged the following sentence as citation needed:

"This could lead to the disabling of students' abilities to develop the critical thinking skills necessary for all scientists."

This is an enormous claim. It strikes me as better to criticize creationism in science class on the grounds that it violates the methodological naturalism demanded by the terms of scientific inquiry (the previous sentence) than to engage in unsourced, facile identification of the acceptance of some non-natural theory of the generation of life with an inability to practice science. After all, the director of the NIH is a Christian theist who does not accept philosophical naturalism and believes in the supernatural.

My flag was removed; it looks like "drive-by" tagging means that I didn't make a comment here on the talk page. I've re-flagged the offending sentence; please let me know if I should provide additional materials.

Personally, I would see the sentence removed, but I'm not a regular Wikipedia editor, so I'm not going to take that action.

Lead Incorrect.[edit]

The lead states that New Mexico requires the teaching of altenate theories. But this is based on a very old report from a pro-intelligent design website that seems to have gotten the facts wrong.

  • In 1999 New Mexico barred creationism from state curriculum
  • One local school district, Rio Rancho, did adopt a teach the controversy approach but changed its support in 2007. [1]
  • A bill was introduced in 2011 [2] but died before it made it to the floor for a vote. I am going to remove New Mexico form this list, but we should also check the other states to see if they are similarly representing out of date information. Thenub314 (talk) 20:54, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead is sourced only to press release from discovery institute[edit]

The only source in the article for the claim that Minnesota's laws require students to critically examine evolution is a press release from Discovery Institute. That is bad. Jytdog (talk) 02:11, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jytdog: FWIW - Thank you for your comments - Yes - agreed - better refs are preferred - also - your recent lead rewrite seems *Excellent* imo - in any case - Thanks again for your recent efforts - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:28, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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smithsonian EL[edit]

See basically done discussion here Jytdog (talk) 04:13, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Needs updated to reflect Carson v. Makin decision[edit]

The supreme court's Carson V Makin decision, which requires voucher programs to not exclude religious institutions, seems highly likely to result in an increase in government voucher funding going towards schools teaching creationism and thus quite relevant to this page's topic. I unfortunately don't feel qualified to do the topic justice, especially since I've struggled to find a good neutral source to cite discussing the implication of the decision *specifically* to evolution and creationism teaching; but I suspect there are more competent editors out there that could do the subject justice.

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