Talk:Crewe Alexandra F.C.

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Good articleCrewe Alexandra F.C. has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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April 12, 2021Peer reviewReviewed
July 15, 2021Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 3, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Crewe Alexandra finished last in the Football League eight times between 1894 and 1982, more than any other league club?
Current status: Good article

Redirect[edit]

Shouldn't we put a redriect on "Crewe Alex" to this article? As this is the short name for the team. --Skully Collins 18:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Importance scale[edit]

I've put the article at mid importance. With all due respect, this club was the first to get a serious youth program and has produced many names that have established themselves at the highest level, most notably David Platt (England captain), Dean Ashton, Seth Johnson, Danny Murphy, etc/ Anyway, I'd like to hear your comments as well.--Skully Collins Edits 14:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Who to list as manager when the club do not use that title?[edit]

Crewe having abandoned the traditional job descriptions of English football, wiki editors are at a loss as to what to put in infoboxes and on pages like List of English Football League managers by date of appointment‎. From the little I have read, this comment from the chairman comes closest to answering the question, in favour of Gradi retaining the title, but editors closer to Crewe might have other citations. I have no particular interest in which of Holland and Gradi is named, but am seeking consistency across wiki pages. Kevin McE 19:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pies[edit]

Do we really need a paragraph on who supplies the club's pies, and what flavours are available? There has been a paragraph on it before, which was deleted, and now another has been added. Comments? glennb28 t • c 08:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the paragraph as it seems too insignificant to be retained. Even if it was not insignificant, it was unverified.  DDStretch  (talk) 09:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Lowry[edit]

Do we have a good source for how many games he played for Alex, please? Crewe Alexandra F.C. club records states 436 but List of Crewe Alexandra F.C. players has 482. Smile a While (talk) 03:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both are right - he played 436 League games and 482 altogether including Cup matches (Source - www.allfootballers.com) Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 22:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Post War English & Scottish Football League A - Z Player's Database confirms 436 league apps, with 2 goals. The same website also has his Liverpool stats - just the one league appearance, no goals. Hope this helps! GiantSnowman 12:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Former stadium / stadia?[edit]

Should there not be a mention of where Crewe played before Gresty Road somewhere? Could a Crewe Wikipedian add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Villafancd (talk • contribs) 20:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's now been sorted - Alexandra Recreation Ground and other places mentioned. Paul W (talk) 11:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames[edit]

Although both nicknames are mentioned in the infobox, the body of the article suggests that The Railwaymen is the more commonly used one.
I've been away from Crewe for some years but believe that The Alex - the only nickname I recall hearing when I was there - is still the predominant nickname. At present, it's difficult for me to verify that; perhaps somebody with more recent knowledge and sources could comment? Twistlethrop (talk) 19:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As a long-suffering Crewe follower, I can confirm that both nicknames are still used in songs and chants ("one-nil to the Railwaymen," for example, and "Oh, South Cheshire ... is Wonderful..." mentions "the Alex"), alongside other chants and songs (eg: "Blue Moon") that mention neither nickname. Paul W (talk) 09:25, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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International players[edit]

Removed from main article on 28 March 2021 pending replacement by table showing full international appearances by players while at Crewe. Paul W (talk) 15:47, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1John Pearson is the only player to represent England at full international level (i.e.: not at schoolboy, under-17, under 21, etc.) while on the books of Crewe Alexandra.

Split for 'Sexual abuse scandal at Crewe Alexandra F.C.'[edit]

During an ongoing Peer Review of this article, it has been suggested that the long section on the football sexual abuse scandal be separated into a new article, leaving a shorter summary of the subject in the Crewe Alex article. This is now on my list of things to do. Paul W (talk) 11:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article fork has been done. Paul W (talk) 17:13, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A scarlet kit was adopted for a short spell in the mid-1920s. - confused - is this scarlet different to red or is this an all-scarlet kit (sorta like liverpool...?)
The source is unclear (I think scarlet is the same as red). Probably best to remove that confusion as part of restructuring the section.  Done
The first sentence of para 3 of the Club identity section looks like it should go at the front or para 1...?  Done
Also - any (sourceable) information on that other money-spinner...away kits? - added.  Done
Any information on cost of tickets for Attendance section (not exact just general info) - Used data from BBC survey in 2017 - seems a reliable source.  Done
Any information on the supporters -(or hooligans) - do they have a nickname?
One song features the line "We are the Railwaymen" and that is the name used for the Supporters Society. Compared to other clubs, Crewe does not have a hooligan reputation (the article mentions arrests following clashes with Port Vale and Macclesfield fans, but I have not been able to find any reliable sources about organised hooligan groups at Crewe).  Done
actually...do they have a mascot? - added mention of Gresty the Lion to identity section  Done
Also - for even weighting, any other players of note between formation and 1980s would be good to add. - Repeat mention of Keenor; the three post-war stars were Blunstone, Bowles and Grobelaar.  Done
Earwig's copyvio detector shows some similarities with a 2008 BBC page. Looking at the version from 28 December 2007...maybe the article borrowed a few bits and pieces that might be good to reword a little to distance.  Done

Overall an engaging read. Possibly a little weighted to recent - but then given the long periods of poor form probably justified. Over to you. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thorough read and detailed feedback. Paul W (talk) 11:55, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Pass or Fail: - nice read/well done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The C of E (talk) 08:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that between 1894 and 1982, Crewe Alexandra finished last in the Football League eight times, more than any other league club? "Between 1894 and 1982, Crewe finished last in the Football League eight times, more than any other league club." (source: Crisp, Marco (1998). Crewe Alexandra Match by Match (2nd ed.). Nottingham: Tony Brown, pp.25–26, 130–137.)
    • ALT1:... that Crewe Alexandra's record defeat came after they held Tottenham Hotspur to a 2–2 draw in the FA Cup third round in January 1960, but then lost the replay 13–2? "All-time records were set against First Division Tottenham Hotspur in the FA Cup third round in 1960. ... On 3 February, Tottenham convincingly won the replay 13–2, Crewe's record defeat" (source: Crisp, Marco (1998). Crewe Alexandra Match by Match (2nd ed.). Nottingham: Tony Brown, pp.9, 12, 91.)

Improved to Good Article status by Paul W (talk). Nominated by Paul W (talk) at 11:57, 15 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article was recently promoted to a Good Article, is sufficiently long, and within guidelines. Both hooks are accurate, interesting, and neutral. Personally I think the first hook is preferable: it is shorter and has more impact. Hanjaf1 (talk) 05:57, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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