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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 14:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dubai World Championship → DP World Tour Championship, Dubai – DP World now fully sponsor the newly re-titled DP World Tour Championship, Dubai. See PGA European Tour News, DP World, 11th Dec 2011 and DP World Tour Championship, Dubai logo (EuropeanTour), 16th May 2012.
For the first three editions of the tournament previously known as The Dubai World Championship, DP World had been a presenting sponsor for the parent company Dubai World.
Declaration of Conflict of Interest: I work in IT at DP World. However I have not been asked to request this change by anyone in the company or it's agencies etc. 62.172.209.103 (talk) 08:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Questions. 1. What is this "DP"? It is not explained (or used) in the the text of article. 2. Why is there no indication that this article concerns golf, in the proposed title? Note also Dubai World Cup. Surely we should aim to reduce confusion for our readers. (Note: I have fixed the markup in the preamble to this RM; the "ref" markup was inappropriate, and in any case would only work if there were a "reflist" template (or similar) at the bottom of the page.

Noetica^Tea? 11:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Answers. 1. "DP World" is a container terminal operating company, formed from the merger of "Dubai Ports International" and the "Dubai Ports Authority". It is partially dual-listed on the Nasdaq Dubai and London stock exchanges. The parent company is "Dubai World". The Dubai World Cup horse race is not sponsored by "Dubai World". See Sponsors - Dubai Racing Club. I am now doubting my assumption that the Dubai World Championship was ever sponsored by "Dubai World". I believe the name simply reflects the location of the world class championship. Perhaps the page should retain the current name and the sponsor details should be noted in the body text and a redirection page setup? This works for the featured article Premier League and Barclays Premier League. How do I withdraw my Requested Move? (Noetica, thank you for fixing the markup). 62.172.209.103 (talk) 13:36, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved it. It is standard practice to move golf tournament pages to their new names when they change. I also updated the article with the new name and referenced the title sponsor. Tewapack (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And I just reverted your move, Tewapack. Don't ever do that while an RM discussion is in progress. See WP:RM. ☺

Noetica^Tea? 00:01, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well 62.172.209.103, if you want me to withdraw the RM at your request (even as a non-admin) I can do that. So can others around here. Would you like that to happen? Just say yes if you do.

Noetica^Tea? 00:01, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

comment Also see Women's Tennis Association for an example of how tournament sponsorship is handled in a tennis article. Neotarf (talk) 09:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - please withdraw the requested move on my behalf. I needed to request the move rather than make it myself, as I work at DP World and that constitutes a controversial move. This should allow Tewapack to make the standard name change for a golf tournament as discussed. As for the correct handling of naming articles, I believe consistency across all golf tournaments should be sort. If it is thought sponsors names should not be included, this would have to be part of a separate debate.
NB The Leisurecorp page shows it was previously a sponsor. Leisurecorp is another Dubai World company. Also, DP World describes itself as a 'global ports operator' not a shipping company. Apologies for getting in the way of the process and thank you both Noetica and Tewapack for your involvement. 62.172.209.103 (talk) 10:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for moving the page prematurely. This is not a controversial move. It is a standard move when a golf tournament changes its name. Golf tournament articles are generally at the current name of the tournament, except for long-standing events like the Italian Open (golf) or Open de España, where redirects for the current name are used. Before I moved the article, I updated it to include a reference to the title sponsor and the new name. There is no reason to include "golf" in the article title unless needed for disambiguation (U.S. Open (golf) vs. US Open (tennis). Tewapack (talk) 15:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on all of the above. I established that the proposer wanted assistance to withdraw this RM. But it now turns out that he or she wanted that in order to enable a non-RM move, such as Tewapack made and I then reversed on procedural grounds. There is no suggestion of any lack of good faith. But in these circumstances it would be improper to withdraw the RM.

Let the RM discussion proceed, and let the matter be concluded in the usual way by an admin. If what Tewapack says stands up under scrutiny, then all is well. ☺

Noetica^Tea? 00:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Eligibility to participate[edit]

Morikawa won in 2021, having played only 9 previous European Tour events that year (presumably the 4 Majors, the 4 WGSc, and the Scottish Open). In many previous years 9 events would have been too few to allow him to take part. Could somebody please explain this participation limit in the article, and whether it still exists in any form (and perhaps also why more top American Major and WGC winners aren't involved if there is no participation requirement left). Tlhslobus (talk) 21:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The rules have changed many times, often without announcement. So it would be difficult to adequately summarize that. pʰeːnuːmuː →‎ pʰiːnyːmyː → ‎ɸinimi → ‎fiɲimi 01:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]