Talk:Dallas (1978 TV series) season 1

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Requested move 1[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Consensus appears to be against the move at this time. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 21:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

– Following the standard model (cf. Lost (season 1), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003) (season 2), and articles in the Category:Television seasons by year sub-cats) Kefas.se (talk) 12:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • There is actually no consensus as to how episode lists are named. The instructions for Template:Episode list#Sublists say that the current naming convention should be followed. --AussieLegend (talk) 13:34, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Although the article is no longer just a list of episodes, and the current format is redundantly long. What is the upside of the current format? --Kefas.se (talk) 14:28, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I wasn't necessarily opposing the rename, just pointing out that there is no actual "standard model". Opinions as to how seasons should be renamed swing both ways. Now that you've added a lot more content to the articles I'm inclined to support the rename. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the current format matches how TV show articles are named, the suggested format, to me appears to imply that 1978 was the 14th season of Dallas, etc. I think that the word "episode" should appear if it is a list of articles instead of a season overview article. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 05:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment was it necessary to split the episode list into seasons? This TV series ended over a decade ago, so there's no future episodes to add to it. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 05:48, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Before I got involved, the episode list was fairly large, at 271kB. After cleaning up the article considerably the article had ballooned to 327kB, and there was 187kB of prose in the article so a split was definitely warranted, although it was agreed that we wouldn't bother splitting out season 1 or the made-for-television movies and reunions. With the additional content now added by Kefas.se, there is certainly more reason for a split. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: It is true that most TV individual season articles don't use the "List of XYZ episodes (season 1)" format, even if they are more list articles than standard articles. The vast majority tend to use the format "XYZ (season 1)" And I really don't like having 2 separate disambig parentheticals in an article title. How about moving the season articles to a title format like Dallas (1978 TV series, season 1) Rreagan007 (talk) 18:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"It is true that most TV individual season articles don't use the "List of XYZ episodes (season 1)" format" - Many of the articles titled "Foo (season x)" were moved to those names by one, now indef-blocked editor, without any consensus or discussion. In his 93 days editing here he managed more than 9,000 edits per month, once making 44 edits in a single minute. His actions resulted in a long discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television). That there may appear to be more "Foo (season x)" articles can not be considered to reflect consensus on that format. We're pretty much able to name how we want, so Dallas (1978 TV series, season 1) is a possibility. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's interesting, I did not know that. Still, I think I prefer "Foo (season X)" to "List of Foo episodes (season X)". But point taken that there is no single standard naming convention for season articles/lists. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the disambiguation should be the same format as the main article. The main article is located at Dallas (1978 TV series), which is why I proposed Dallas (1978 TV series, season 1). I suppose we could move the main article to Dallas (CBS), but that disambiguation doesn't really follow the normal disambiguation rules. On Wikipedia, the disambiguation parenthetical is usually a set of which the article's subject is a part. Therefore, "Dallas (CBS)" would imply that Dallas is a form of CBS, which isn't really the case. You would have to make the main article "Dallas (CBS TV series)" and the season articles "Dallas (CBS TV series, season X)". While that wouldn't be terrible, I think "Dallas (1978 TV series)" and "Dallas (1978 TV series, season X)" is slightly more preferable, because some people might not know what "CBS" is but pretty much everyone will know what the year "1978" is. But I would be comfortable with either option. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:50, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose – This makes no sense. Each season didn't take place in 1978. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 18:24, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting to get the full picture as to why the season articles are named as they are. While I think the current format used for the Dallas seasons are way too long, and way to cryptic, I do see why "Dallas (1978) (season x)" etc. isn't great either. "Dallas (1978 TV series, season x)" is way better, but then again, it might serve Wikipedia best if we were to reach a general decision on how to name TV series season articles, instead of starting to move around individually. And the place for that discussion, of course, is not here... --Kefas.se (talk) 23:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Consensus appears to be against the move at this time. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 21:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

– I thought this requested move makes a little more sense than the one above. I only put CBS markers on the first 2 seasons since the 2012 series was renewed for a second season. If the seasons go on, we can keep putting CBS on the front of the seasons. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 18:22, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose "CBS" is an inconsistent and confusing method of disambiguation. It certainly makes no sense to swap between "(CBS season x)" and "(season x)" formats. This nomination is inappropriate and should be closed. Two concurrent move proposals should never occur for the same set of articles. --AussieLegend (talk) 23:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -Firstly, we wouldn't want to create yet another different style for TV season articles, and secondly, CBS is the network that once aired the show, not the company who produced it... --Kefas.se (talk) 23:43, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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