Talk:Darwen

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Dwrgwyn[edit]

There is way too much about a possible Celtic origin of the name in this article: it even lists it in the first sentence in heavy type as if it is still used. I am going to trim a lot of this down into one mention. But I can't find any references to a lot of this. In fact, a Google search produces two groups of hits on this word: one is an address in Bath; and the other is a host of mentions of the word in other related Wikipedia articles, all of which treat the word as if it's currently used.

I take it there has been some local project or coverage. So if whoever added all this could point to some references, that would be lovely. Otherwise I am considering removing the word from all the articles except possibly River Darwen.

There's an awful lot of Lancashire stubs, incidentally; where are all the Lancastrians on Wikipedia?

Telsa (talk) 08:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have now scaled back the number of mentions of this derivation. A (very) cursory web search about this found only a webpage for the local archaeological society, which in turn does not cite any sources. It all sounds plausible, but if it's true, why does only the one page say it? So I have added the "cite needed" template. I have also added one for the "local people say Darren". (I accept personally that this one is true, knowing people from the area, but we need a verifiable source. )

I am having trouble finding a good population estimate, due to boundary changes and lumping in with Blackburn.

Telsa (talk) 11:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have (re)added the 'citation needed' template to the section on 'dwrgwyn'. It seems entirely spurious to me, the only explanation I've ever seen in reliable texts is 'Derwent'. Unless a proper citation can be given for this statement, I will remove it. Psammead (talk) 15:21, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the section discussed above, as no source has been given. Psammead (talk) 13:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Life "on the edge"[edit]

Hi User:Darrener. The edits I made are not personal towards you. The intro of an article should be kept as concise as possible, and I was trying to keep it to the bare minimum of content.

If you look at my edit summary in the page history, what I was saying was that the wording "Darwen is on the edge..." is precisely right - it lies across and over the border itself, or the edge. There are bits of the town on the moors, and some bits not - that's precisely what it says already. Just like Todmorden lies on the edge of the historical borders of Yorkshire (and indeed over on the other side too!).

Fear not - I'm extremely familiar with the area too and I want to see accuracy prevail, but not at the expense of keeping the introduction to the point. If any extra detail is required, it's best putting it later in the article body.

Feel free to discuss the changes here - we dont' use the articles themselves for discussions so that they can be easily read at all times.

Hope that explains things somewhat, A q uilina 21:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Darwen is a small market town in Lancashire, which extends onto the West Pennine Moors." ... does that work for everybody?

And could one of you excellent folk fact-check my recent edits to A666 road please? I'm not nearby. User:Pedant 23:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of Arms[edit]

Does anyone know the meaning of the Motto on the Coat of Arms? User:Pedant 03:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

without work, nothing.

Or Nothing, without work.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DarwenIndependanceParty (talk • contribs) 23:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There has never been any vote in Darwen as to it's removal from Lancashire.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.154.207 (talk) 19:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The coat of arms section mentions "three bolls to represent the three main areas of Darwen - Over Darwen, Lower Darwen and Hoddlesden and Pickup Bank". I haven't verified whether this is correct, but I removed Pickup Bank as it wasn't in the Borough of Darwen (it was in Blackburn Rural District). Peter E. James (talk) 02:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lancashire[edit]

In the eyes of all Darreners, its still the borough of Darwen in the County of Lancashire.

However, it is now part of Blackburn with Darwen. Therefore, the article should reflect this.

Theelf29 (talk) 12:42, 29 August 2006 (BST)

Image[edit]

Nice free-to-upload (at commons) image of Darwen here, should the need arise. --Jza84 | Talk 16:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

news services[edit]

Looks like we have a content dispute about the nature and number of news services in this area. Please discuss the matter here, page is fully protected to prevent further edit warring. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the link is missing to where we can discuss the matter (above) but I agree. It seems like some "individuals" are looking for self promotion of small publications (such blatant self-promotion is prohibited by Wiki) and they should be removed. If anything desrves to be on the site as locval new provider it is The Bee radio or Lancashire Telegraph, however I'm not sure if either of these class as "large" corporations to qualify for (promotional) links.

I can see a "war" breaking out between the so called "news services" for shameless self promotion and think it's right that Blackburn with Darwen Advertiser and Darwen Reporter should be removed for infringement of wiki rules and to keep this page relevant. I don't mind receiving the various directories (although I usually throw them in the bin) but I don't want them being represented on here as something they're not (large, influential businesses). FS1

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"Britain's leading patent-holder of electric kettles"[edit]

This was added in 2007, unfortunately there was no reference and the information wasn't specific enough to be verifiable, so I removed it. Peter E. James (talk) 02:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Is not Darwen betwintowned with the town of Gap in subloirean France?[edit]

Is it alright to at least byword that Darwin is twinned with Gap? 2A00:23C7:9C97:5D01:F96C:8FD:2910:279C (talk) 11:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find a reliable source for it. I couldn't find any reference to this, and there's nothing on the Gap, Hautes-Alpes page either. the wub "?!" 21:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]