Talk:Del Close

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I have reverted the paragraph about the skull prank. I don't know if Charna actually delivered a skull to Goodman, but I read in multiple, national sources that this had happened. New sources quoted the note, allegedly left by Close, stating his wishes to continue his acting career, and to fulfill his ambition to act in Hamlet. As long as we make it clear that this was a story that was spread, and a hoax, and don't report the hoax as fact, I think it is acceptable to include the story. I think it also gives some insight into his sense of humour and is therefore a valuable addition.

I'm also thinking about adding something about Close being a Wiccan, but I have no idea if this has ever been published anywhere. It was common knowledge among folks in Chicago, and I was present when Close spoke about Wicca to an audience at a Subgenius devival (at the Metro, summer of '83). But the only printed sources I'm certain exist are issues of "The Stark Fist of Removal". I could probably dig those up, though, if folks think they meet the reliability criteria. --Kathryn NicDhàna 20:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The link to the New Yorker article is broken, and I'm not familiar enough with that form of external link to figure out how to change it to a different address right now. I'll do it in a little while if I have time and remember. However, I found this article that sheds a little more light on the story: [1] - maybe somebody who knows more about editing can correct the reference? I would love to see a citation included from the Stark Fist issues, seems reliable enough to me, considering the topic. --DavidJField 19:06, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The book The Second City: Backstage at the World's Greatest Comedy Theater presents the skull story as fact. I'd say that's fairly credible, as the book is a Second City production. --Savethemooses 07:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finding the first line of this article rather troublesome. The article is about Del Close, not Johnstone, Spolin, Dudley or Sills. For instance, Johnstone's work has little to do with Close or vice versa. It seems like a strange qualifier at the beginning of the article, one that is not reciprocated in the other articles. I'm going to remove the first line so that it goes right into who Del was. If others feel that these other people should be mentioned, I think it should be a footnote about other people who have been influential to improvisational theatre. --User:Kevin_Mullaney 24, October, 2008 —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

The sentence about Guru being a "complete picture" is opinionated. I'm not going to tamper with / remove it, but please edit the bias out.--129.64.66.42 (talk) 21:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Church of the SubGenius Membership?[edit]

Recently. User:Pburka removed the following pages from Category:American SubGenii.

Del Close [2] (Mentioned here)

Penn Jillette [3] (Mentioned here and here and here)

Rudy Rucker [4] (Mentioned here, here, here and here)

Nancy A. Collins [5] (Mentioned here, here and here)

John Shirley [6] (Mentioned here and here)

Bruce Campbell [7] (Mentioned here and here)

Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman [8] (Mentioned here and here)

Lon Milo DuQuette [9](Mentioned here)

These removals were perfectly reasonable, because the articles do not mention membership in the COSG, nor are most of the links I list above reliable sources. Because of this, I am putting out a call for citations to reliable sources that establish Church of the SubGenius membership for these and other celebrities. I suspect that a fair count will put the number considerably higher than the number of celebrity Scientologists. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The two parts of WP:BLPCAT that seem most relevant are "the case for each category must be made clear by the article text and its reliable sources" -- meaning we need to add something about Church of the SubGenius Membership in the text and we need a citation supporting it, and "Categories regarding religious beliefs ... should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief" -- meaning that we need a citation where Del Close himself says he is a member or strong supporter. As I said before, I think that Pburka removing the category was entirely correct; I just want to improve the article in such a way that the category can be re-added. So, does anyone know of such a citation? --Guy Macon (talk) 04:31, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]