Talk:Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014

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Requested move 12 May 2014[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014 (S. 994; 113th Congress) → Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014 – The preemptive disambiguation is unnecessary. WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRECISION control. When people now refer to the "Digital Accountability and Transparency Act", they are referring to the act of Congress (this), not those works which are not acts of Congress but merely bills or proposed acts. I also intend to further propose that this article be renamed the "DATA Act", but I did not want to conflate issues which do not pertain to the "(S. 994; 113th Congress)" part of the title and confuse the arguments. Int21h (talk) 05:11, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support - Now that the bill is officially a public law, I concede that the disambiguation is probably no longer necessary. Congress will not reuse this name now that it has become law. That said, I do not believe the disambiguation was "preemptive" when the article was created, since there already was an article on the House bill by the same name at the time that this article was created. The disambiguation at that time was necessary to distinguish between the two separate bills that share a name. Having a shared name does not mean that they have the same contents or even the same supporters. Legislation and how Congress puts it all together is a more complicated subject than many people think (don't get me started on legislative vehicles!) - sometimes naming things gets complicated too. Thanks. HistoricMN44 (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 24 July 2014[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014 → DATA Act – While both short titles are official, "DATA Act" is shorter and easier to wikilink against. It is also the most commonly used short title at this point, likely because of the same. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC) Int21h (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose The Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014 is the law's correct title. It also gives more information than the acronym - a reader immediately knows what year the law is from, that it relates to digital material in some way, and that it at least claims to address transparency. Those are not facts that you pick up immediately from "DATA Act". A simple redirect on DATA Act that leads here will allow those who want to link to the acronym if that is their big issue. There are other cases where we use the official name instead of the common name - the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act instead of Obamacare for instance. There are plenty of people who recognize the name Obamacare and not PPACA, which is why there is a redirect to the correct title. That said, I don't oppose this strongly enough to have an edit war about it, so long as the appropriate redirects are in place. Thanks. HistoricMN44 (talk) 14:14, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
DATA Act is an official name--also called a "short title"; Obamacare is not. The comparison is flawed. This fact is also obscured by the technical deficiencies of {{Infobox United States federal proposed legislation}}, which does not have a parameter for other short titles (all short titles are official names, not to be confused with acronyms, nicknames or colloquial names). Int21h (talk) 18:07, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The point I was trying to make is that just because a name is more commonly recognized by people doesn't mean Wikipedia uses that name as the article name. There needs to be a stronger reason than "common use" to change the name. I do realize that "DATA Act" is an official short title, but I still think it is better with the longer name, an equally official short title that provides more contextual information and disambiguation. Thanks. HistoricMN44 (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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