Talk:Dive (Usher song)

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Good articleDive (Usher song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starDive (Usher song) is part of the Looking 4 Myself series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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DateProcessResult
September 4, 2013Good article nomineeListed
June 5, 2014Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 10, 2012.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Victoria's Secret Angel model Chanel Iman plays Usher's love interest in the music video for "Dive"?
Current status: Good article

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Reviewer: Calvin999 (talk · contribs) 17:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can't see anything wrong with it! Passing :)  — ₳aron 14:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Charts[edit]

Dive at number 15 in ukraine?? I think thats not correct. I can´t find this information in the FDR Charts and i can´t the specified link open. I am pleased with new information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey929292 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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OMG! It's the greatest song in the history of the whole wide world EVERRRR!!![edit]

While I am sure the IP editor (currently taking a brief break) believes this song "received universal acclaim from music critics, with overwhelming approval towards Usher's vocal performance", that is completely unsourced and likely to remain so.

First, "universal" would mean absolutely every critic everywhere. If there is a blogger in a remote village in Minsk who disagrees with the rest of the critics, it is no longer "universal". I cannot imagine a source confirming what every critic everywhere thought.

Next is "acclaim". This means enthusiastic and public praise. How you would measure enthusiasm in the praise is beyond me. Additionally, coupled with "universal", the "public" part would now require that even critics who hadn't reviewed the song to have enthusiastically praised it publicly.

How, exactly, was the approval "overwhelming"? What is the cutoff point for this metric?

All things considered, this statement is a shining example of why you've been asked by several editors to stop and discuss the issue. After your block, please discuss the issues here, on other article talk pages and/or your talk page. - SummerPhDv2.0 17:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, it's my fault that I didn't discuss my edit beforehand. Sorry for that.
Secondly, do you realize that the line I edited used to indicate "universal positive acclaim"? I don't know why you're blaming me for writing down nonsense while that indication has literally been there the whole time. To some extent I feel like you're the biased one here. I mean you could at least have reverted it to the original line instead of removing the whole introduction line. That counts for all the edits I made.(82.217.67.186 (talk) 23:03, 17 October 2017 (UTC))[reply]
Now that you have registered an account, MakeMeWannaDamian, please be sure to log on when you are editing.
"Universal acclaim" was there when you started. I removed it. You added it back.[1] When you add or restore material, you are responsible for the material. - SummerPhDv2.0 23:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I said that it indicated "universal positive acclaim" BEFORE I even touched it. I just wanted to add more information to that. Then you deleted the whole introduction line. My point is, then change it back to how it USED to be before I did anything.(82.217.67.186 (talk) 23:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC))[reply]
Please be sure to log in under your user name, MakeMeWannaDamian, when you are editing.
Yes, it said "universal positive acclaim" before your first edit. It should not have. I removed it. You put it back. You should not have. It should not be in the article. I will not restore it as it is unsourcable peacockery. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:15, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then replace it instead of removing it.(82.217.67.186 (talk) 10:47, 18 October 2017 (UTC))[reply]
I don't have anything to replace it with. It's a song. Review aggregators don't cover songs because no one is reading reviews of a song before investing three minutes and five seconds in simply listening to it. - SummerPhDv2.0 13:50, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Almost all songs that contain "Critical Reception" open the paragraph with such lines.(82.217.67.186 (talk) 17:12, 18 October 2017 (UTC))[reply]
Newer songs generally attract fans and haters who want to add that critics all agree it it "the BEST. SONG. EVERRRRR!!!" or "OMG, sucks sooooo bad." Eventually, someone removes it. Older songs generally never have them to begin with. If there isn't a source for something in an article, any editor can remove it or demand an in-line citation. - SummerPhDv2.0 19:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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