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National Holiday template

Must include the National Holiday template.As diwali is a national holiday in Suriname,fiji,etc Jishnusavith (talk) 07:12, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

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Please add Commons file

Please add Commons file from Nachiarkoil lamp to this article. Thanks. 222.164.212.168 (talk) 18:01, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

as well as the pipes to and pics of Nilavilakku lamp, Types of Indian oil lamps

and List of light sources. Thanks. 222.164.212.168 (talk) 18:30, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2019

May I edit Diwali, I can fix grammatical and factual mistakes, I promise to make Wikipedia a safe and reliable source. Gumshoe97 (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. aboideautalk 19:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Citation needed for date

A citation is required for the 2019 dates. Currently, this article is included so that it will appear on the Main Page via WP:Selected anniversaries/October 25, but will need to be removed if the date isn't cited to a reliable source. Thanks in advance. —howcheng {chat} 17:46, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

I have taken care of this. —howcheng {chat} 17:50, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2019

In the below, change "womenfolk" to "women." Womenfolk is an archaic usage and is possible pejorative. Other traditions and significance

During the season of Diwali, numerous rural townships and villages host melas,[134] or fairs, where local producers and artisans trade produce and goods. A variety of entertainments are usually available for inhabitants of the local community to enjoy. The womenfolk, in particular, adorn themselves in colourful attire and decorate their hands with henna. Such events are also mentioned in Sikh historical records.[135][note 15] Nynative (talk) 23:49, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done: see Special:Diff/923665202. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 00:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Please add Guyana as one of the countries that celebrate Diwali. It is a national holiday there and I grew up celebrating this as a major holiday in that country where about half the population are descendants of Indians and are practicing hindus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.84.112.12 (talk) 23:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2019

Please add 'Deepavali' also as one of the names. We hindus in many parts of India and elsewhere in the world go by the name 'Deepavali'(not Deepawali). Please add it.

Thanks. SivaPenamakuru (talk) 19:21, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 03:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2019

Add the name 'Deepavali'. In south india, singapore, malaysia etc 'Deepavali' is the name widely used. Not Dipawali or Deepawali but 'Deepavali'. Its a major hindu festival and not representing the names correctly isn't the way. Kindly correct it.

Thanks. SivaPenamakuru (talk) 19:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 03:48, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2020

Change "is the Indian festival of lights" to the "is the Hindu festival of lights".

Please not there is a portion of the Indian that is not Hindu, therefore do not celebrate Diwali. Thejewelssaid (talk) 18:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: As noted in this article, it is observed by multiple religions. Terasail[✉] 18:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2020

Add the following at the end of but within the "Issues" section. Feel free to rephrase as you deem fit. 

=== Preventative and remedial solutions ====

Though origins of Hinduism and Diwali go back at least 4000 and 2500 years respectively, the use of fireworks for celebrations in India commenced only in 17th century by the mughal and marathas rulers.[1] As a consequence of firecracker born pollution, India's National Green Tribunal (NGT) ordered a ban in 2020 on firecrackers on diwali festival in NCR region and several states too introduced restrictions or ban on the sales, storage and use of firecrackers. Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) has developed environment friendly green crackers by using less polluting raw materials which emit 30% less chemical pollutants and comparatively less noise (110-125 decibels versus 160 decibels). However, green crackers still contain harmful pollutants such as aluminium, barium, potassium nitrate and carbon.[2]

Thanks. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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References

  1. ^ If not pollution, Hindu groups still have 2 good reasons to support firecracker ban on Diwali, The Print, 14 Nov 2020.
  2. ^ What are green firecrackers? All you need to know, Hindustan Times, 13 Nov 2020 .

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2021

Dear Wikipedia editors, I would like to put a request to change the Spelling for 'Diwali/Divali'. In Hindi language 'Diwal/Dival' means 'Bankrupt'. One who involved in the bankrupt is referred as 'Diwali / Divali'. The real spelling is 'Deepavali' which means Deepam + Aavali (தீபம்+ஆவளி). Deepam means lamps 

(அகல் விளக்கு), ஆவளி means

'Varisai' which means 'Lining up the lamps'. This festival is to worship Goddess Lakshmi who is the one to give us wealth. So, please change the spelling for Diwali. Thank you. 193.119.91.44 (talk) 11:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And both spellings are already in the article. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2021

I would like to add in some information and also trim the grammar a little bit more and improve this article as a whole. 218.212.17.168 (talk) 09:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

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Pakistan

Pakistan clearly doesn't celebrate Diwali The news report stats that Diwali as a National festival was suggested By the minority rights group But overally it still hasn't been decided Namardmuhammed (talk) 23:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2021

Szaidi786 (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)"change celebrated by Hindus, Jains, Sikhs and some Buddhists, notably Newar Buddhists to celebrated by Hindus"
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:27, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Divali

The correct spelling is with V, DiVali Hindi Devanagari script does not have a “w” sound 73.206.173.117 (talk) 03:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Diwali introduction

In England, it appears from the Press that Diwali effects have already started. Someone more knowledgeable than I am should elucidate; for example, how about other countries?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63191221 , https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/welsh-police-drafted-support-leicestershire-7685639 , https://www.birminghamworld.uk/news/diwali-2022-birmingham-victoria-square-3873631 .

94.30.84.71 (talk) 16:57, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Radioactive?

the page mentions radioactive compounds but none of the three sources mention radioactive ingredients. i will try removing this mention. if you have new source or maybe i missed something, please reply here. 14.139.185.181 (talk) 07:42, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

cant remove. somebody please do so or give reason why not to. 14.139.185.181 (talk) 07:44, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2022

Change mention of Prince Charles to King Charles 118.201.252.79 (talk) 05:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: I changed it to the "the former Prince Charles", with a wikilink to the article for Charles III. BlueNoise (Désorienté? It's just purple) 05:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2022

Change /dɪˈwɑːliː/ to /dɪˈ.ʋɐː.liː/

Change dīpāvalī to /diːˈ.pɐ.ʋɐ.li/ 2607:FEA8:20DF:6C00:9127:9A07:8AC5:19C0 (talk) 01:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done /dɪˈwɑːliː/ is the accurate pronunciation in English. "dīpāvalī" is not a phonetic transcription at all, it's a transliteration from Sanskrit. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Why no mention of celebrations outside South Asia?

Could someone update this article to include Diwali celebrations outside of the Indian subcontinent? In addition to Indian immigrant communities in North America and other English-speaking countries, it is celebrated in Singapore, Malaysia, and the Carribean region. 146.142.1.10 (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Removal of Air polloution content

@Kashmiri

Hi - I noticed you reverted my removal of the air pollution content. Your reasoning is that it was "appropriately sourced but removed with poor explanation". I provided full explanations in my edit summaries. Most of the sources used are news articles that do not actually mention the statements made in the article. Additionally, these sources must comply with WP:MEDRS if biomedical claims are going to be made. None of these sources comply with this policy and i think this content should be removed.


Thanks,


Starlights99 (talk) 20:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, saying that air pollution is harmful to the respiratory system does not need MEDRS. However, this was not the main problem. The problem is that you have removed any references to Diwali causing pollution, even when sourced, which went against WP:PRESERVE. At the same time, you added more on Diwali celebrations, sourced to a questionable source. This looked a bit like whitewashing the festival. — kashmīrī TALK 21:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
@Kashmiri
Hi,
There were many other claims in the section which did meet MEDRS such as:
  1. "Getting exposed to harmful chemicals while firing crackers can hinder growth in people and increases the toxic levels in their bodies"
  2. "When these compounds pollute the air, they increase the risk of cancer in people"
  3. "The air and noise pollution that is caused by firecrackers can affect people with disorders related to the heart, respiratory and nervous system."
  4. "The harmful fumes while firing crackers can lead to miscarriage."
All of these are very clearly biomedical claims. Additionally, the sources that were used to support these claims didn’t actually include this information, and even if they did, they wouldn’t be in line with MEDRS anyway.
As for your comment on “whitewashing”, I’m not sure what you are referring to. The only other contributions I made are some grammatical changes and some contextual info to the Jainism section. However I do apologise if it came across that way.
Based on the above, I still feel the air pollution section should be removed, or at least content relating to biomedical claims.
Let me know your thoughts,
Thanks,
Starlights99 (talk) 22:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
@Kashmiri
Hello,
I hope you are well. Do you have any thoughts on my comments above?
Kind regards,
Starlights99 (talk) 22:54, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Sorry for not replying earlier. I agree that these claims go a bit too far and do merit rewording and better sourcing. I just don't think that poor wording is a sufficient reason for the removal of any mention of environmental and health hazards associated with Diwali. — kashmīrī TALK 23:18, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Kashmiri
Thanks for the response. In that case there are a few points to consider:
  1. I understand WP:PRESERVE is important but I don’t think re-instating all the content is the right move ( IE: the biomedical claims with unreliable / non-compliant sources)
  2. I have created a sandbox page with some draft words. Please have a look and let me know your thoughts / feel free to make some changes. Link: User:Starlights99/sandbox
Thanks,
Starlights99 (talk) 12:13, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi,
Following discussions on the reliable sources notice board about this article, it was agreed that many of the sources for the biomedical claims are not reliable. Therefore whilst suitable sources are being identified, the improperly sourced biomedical claims have been removed.
Starlights99 (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Unreliable source

In the history section, it says that ramayan was celebrated for 2 years on ayodhya but it points to a unreliable source, the source is just a blog post and the blog post also provides no evidence. 160.238.79.201 (talk) 13:51, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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