Talk:Don't Blame Me (Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh song)

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On 25 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Don't Blame Me (1933 song). The result of the discussion was Moved to Don't Blame Me (Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh song).

Move request[edit]

From WP:RM:

Don't Blame Me (song) → Don't Blame Me (1933 song) —(Discuss)— I had originally titled it as such, to disambiguate this from an Ozzy Osbourne song of the same title. There are a few articles linking to the Ozzy Osbourne song, though the page for that link hasn't been created. -- BRG 19:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete. --Stemonitis 16:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is this comment supposed to mean? -- BRG 20:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It means the instructions weren't completely followed. The Ozzy Osbourne song was actually an article [1] that eventually got redirected, probably because the song non-notable and doesn't need an article. If articles link Don't Blame Me (song) intending the Ozzy song, then unlink them. So I oppose this move proposal because there seems to be only one notable song called "Don't Blame Me". –Pomte 02:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 June 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Don't Blame Me (Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh song). This song was found not to be primary over the Taylor Swift song, at the very least. But disambiguating by primary credited song creators seems to be the standard for songs, so that alternative suggestion will be used instead. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:06, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Blame Me (song) → Don't Blame Me (1933 song) – Well, user BRG, today's your lucky day!

About a month ago, someone created an article for Taylor Swift's 2017 song "Don't Blame Me" - originally a redirect. With this, it's clear the 1933 "Don't Blame Me" cannot retain the (song) disambiguator any more, because now we have two song articles with the same name - and thus no primary topic. Per WP:DABSONG (emphasis added by me): "if there is no defined performer of an old song (over 50 years), the lyricist(s) and/or the composer(s) are not well-recognized, or multiple notable performers that have covered it are better known than the original recording artist, the year of publication will be used."

‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ ‍ ^{💬reach out to me}
_{📝see my work} 14:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 21:50, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Songs has been notified of this discussion. ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ ‍ ^{💬reach out to me}
_{📝see my work} 14:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. QuietHere (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Don't Blame Me (song) → Don't Blame Me (1933 song), but would support Don't Blame Me (song) → Don't Blame Me (Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh song). "The lyricist(s) and/or the composer(s) are not well-recognized" does not apply in this case since Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh wrote some of the top hits in the Great American Songbook, including this song, and have been inducted into Songwriters Hall of Fame and American Theater Hall of Fame. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:07, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from nom - for the record, I would also be in favor of moving "Don't Blame Me (song)" to "Don't Blame Me (Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh song)", though I will note that at first, I was under the impression that because of the "or" in the DABSONG excerpt I quoted, only one criteria had to be fulfilled for the year of publication to be used. @Roman Spinner, in these kinds of article disambiguators, does the lyricist usually go before the composer? Thanks, ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ ‍ ^{💬reach out to me}
_{📝see my work} 06:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ , I would say it depends on the "official" name order, such as "Rodgers [composer] and Hammerstein [lyricist]", but "Lerner [lyricist] and Loewe [composer]". In this instance, I am basing the billing upon the original 1933 sheet music cover which depicts the credits, "Lyric by DOROTHY FIELDS / Melody by JIMMY McHUGH". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:53, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Got it, thanks! ‍ ‍ elias. 🧣 ‍ ‍ ^{💬reach out to me}
    _{📝see my work} 14:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support the Taylor Swift song has 4,485 views compared with only 567[[2]] for this one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.