Talk:Drummondville Voltigeurs

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Fair use rationale for Image:Drummondvillevoltigeurs.JPG[edit]

Fair use rationale completed. Flibirigit (talk) 06:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because junior hockey team, particularly those from major junior hockey, are notable. --Patken4 (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

notability is not inherited. What you will need to show is that there are reliable sources that specifically cover the subject of this article in a significant manner. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of sources from Google News, which doesn't include an archives search. There are plenty of sources just from Google. Patken4 (talk) 18:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

you need to provide specific reliable sources. anyone who has done any research using online searches knows that most of the "hits" absolutely fail in providing any actual reliable sources or reliable sources that are actually covering the subject in a significant manner. Please provide actual specific sources that could be used. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

see also Wikipedia:ATHLETE#Basic_criteria and Wikipedia:ROUTINE#Routine_coverage. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:53, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know exactly what you're looking for. These articles talk about the team quite extensively. They include game recaps (which there are many), articles on the teams Memorial Cup appearance in 2009 (there would be others for their other Memorial Cup appearances), articles on the team hiring coaches, articles on the teams players being prospects for the NHL, etc. Just a small dose from newspapers and media organizations from across Canada: Sportsnet.ca article, from Globe and Mail, from Ottawa Citizen, from TSN, from Montreal Gazette. Patken4 (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References and citations may help: I've just added a ref from your list of articles and added the reflist template. Echoedmyron (talk) 19:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are confusing assertion of importance per WP:CSD with notability. If this article lacks notability (which it does not, per the abundance of available sources) it would be a candidate for WP:AFD, but not CSD. Rlendog (talk) 20:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This was a bad misuse of CSD. The article asserted notability in numerous locations - as a winner of a league championship, as a participant in a national championship, as a developer of NHL talent, etc. TRPOD could have AFDed if he found these claims insufficient, only for it to get the snow keep, but CSD was ridiculous. Reso lute 22:03, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While some references definitely do need to be added to the article. It is very clearly not a speedy candidate. Major-junior hockey is huge in Canada and teams in these leagues are among the most well known non-NHL teams in the world not just Canada. -DJSasso (talk) 19:29, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]