Talk:Dumbarton/Archives/2023 1

Dumbuck - include here or somewhere else?

Hi all, I have just added some info regarding Dumbuck and its features of interest to this article (new paragraph in "History" section, commencing "The one time village of Dumbuck is essentially now a suburb of Dumbarton...") since there is other info regarding the "bonded warehouse complex at Dumbuck in Dumbarton" presently in the "Economy and transport: Whisky" section. However both Dumbuck Hill and Dumbuck Quarry are presently detailed in the article on the adjacent village i.e. Milton, West Dunbartonshire, probably/possibly because the street address of the Quarry is in Milton. Also, the Dumbarton article does not include Dumbuck in its List of Districts. Any thoughts as to the best course of action here, namely, (1) leave the Dumbuck paragraph here, (2) Move it to the Milton article (actually I did this initially, then changed my mind), or possibly (3) create a new article for Dumbuck - although the latter may not be justified on the grounds of insufficient notability. Anyone with detailed knowledge of the relevant boundaries etc. care to comment? (Also I describe Dumbuck as a village per one source, though perhaps it does not qualify and a better term is required e.g. locality). Regards - Tony Rees, Australia (no knowledge of the area first hand, but wishing to cite Dumbuck House from another article). Tony 1212 (talk) 18:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

This Google Earth portion suggests that the main part of Dumbuck lies within Dumbarton's boundary, while the hill and quarry are outside - if correct of course. Thoughts anyone? Tony 1212 (talk) 05:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I found an old document which support the idea that part of the original Dumbuck estate is now within Dumbarton boundary, and part outside it. RE the options (1)-(3) suggested above, I made a start on (3) in my sandbox but was not 100% satisfied it was the best way to go. So for now, additional info that I wanted to mention in connection to the Estate has been added to the article on Andrew Geils, first significant Estate owner (his father who purchased it only owned it for a few months before dying, also has no WP article in his own right), where presently it resides mostly in a figure caption and reproduced historic map. I am (sort of) happy with this for now, although it does overload the figure caption a bit :) - otherwise OK... so, I have adjusted relevant text in the Dumbarton article to mention this (also Dumbuck Crannog, presently treated under Milton Island although maybe should not be...) Tony 1212 (talk) 17:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)