Talk:Durdle Door/Archive 1
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Map of strata?
The discussion about the sequence at the "isthmus" is confusing. At the moment, the article claims that the Purbeck is both more and less resistant than the Portland!Perhaps a small map of the area showing the strata might be helpful.
--Grahbudd 05:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Age
Any information on the age or dates of development of the feature? I know that rocks similar to the Devil's Chimney (rocking rocks?) have changed in recorded history, besides all those coastlines. -- maxrspct ping me 00:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I understand that is one derivation of Durdle. Another is to a lord to King Canute. Any evidence of where the name comes from much appreciated! Clive Durdle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.78.182 (talk) 13:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
File:Durdle Door Overview.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Durdle Door Overview.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on August 12, 2013. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2013-08-12. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Crisco, Many thanks for the info. Article looks fine to me. Look forward to seeing Durdle Door as Picture of the Day. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 10:59, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Door?!?
That's no door! It's quite unmistakeably a dinosaur drinking the ocean ^_-
Awien (talk) 01:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I see it more as a dragon. Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:30, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Puff the . . . . Went to your Flickr page. You've made some stunning images! Awien (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Puff, heh :-) ... and thanks. Saffron Blaze (talk) 02:18, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Spam text?
In the literature/popular culture section, there's currently a reference to a book by Ron Dawson, which I'm inclined to view as spam, or at least as non-notable. The text lacks a supporting citation, and the Ron Dawson article - which also lacks reliable sources, and reads a bit like a CV - was created by an editor (User:Thelastviking, contributions here) who happens to have a username which is the same as one of Ron Dawson's publications, all of which are published by Mulberry Tree Books, a publisher which is based in a village in Dorset and only appears to have published books by Ron Dawson. I'm inclined to delete the text on this page and propose the Ron Dawson article for deletion also. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 11:22, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think the book is notable enough to appear in the section (I added a reference). The entry for Ron Dawson might be a on the edge, but I would ask someone who edits a lot of authors to take a look. --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- Obviously an amazon ref verifies that the book exists, but does it establish notability? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- Durdle Doorus?? A keeper for sure. -- Hillbillyholiday talk 23:29, 9 August 2013 (UTC) (Does anybody say "whereby" anymore? It sounds odd.)
- Obviously an amazon ref verifies that the book exists, but does it establish notability? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Wealden Clay
Where should the link Wealden Clay point to? We have:
- Weald Clay Formation (http://www.bgs.ac.uk/Lexicon/lexicon.cfm?pub=WC)
- Wealden Supergroup (http://www.bgs.ac.uk/Lexicon/lexicon.cfm?pub=W) --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't obvious from the article whether there's any Weald Clay within the Wealden deposits. This source refers to "The Lower Cretaceous Wealden Group is of fluvial sands and clays with some lignite beds. This unit is also vertical and the softer beds have been eroded out by running water so that it is marked by a series of gullies" so I'd be inclined to link to Wealden Supergroup and reword the article sentence so it reads "a narrow and compressed band of Cretaceous Wealden clays, sands and chert beds — and then narrow bands of Greensand and sandstone" as that avoids having to decide whether the clays are Weald Clay specifically. (However I'd like to point out that I'm not a geologist, so may be overlooking something here). PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- Your approach seems eminently sensible. The Supergroup is safe. Because this place is heavily visited by undergraduate geologists in the south of the UK, there are loads of geological maps of this area on the net. They almost always just label this succession as "Wealden". But, given it's shown as the only unit between the Gault Clay and the Purbeck Lst, it must refer to the whole supergroup. This is rather handy as a back view of the Door promontory. I strongly suspect the Wealden clays are present, given the labelling as "Wealden clays and sands" (...and from dim memories of being here myself as an undergrad), but safer to write around it. DanHobley (talk) 17:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've linked to the Supergroup, and also made a couple of other adjustments. I took out the comparison of the Portland limestone with the Purbeck beds, simply because in the article as it stands, there's no previous mention of the Purbeck beds, so readers may be confused by this. I also reduced the clays/sands/chert description down to just clays and sands, as I'm not sure if the chert is part of the Supergroup or not; perhaps someone more knowledgeable can reinstate it if required? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:19, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
- Your approach seems eminently sensible. The Supergroup is safe. Because this place is heavily visited by undergraduate geologists in the south of the UK, there are loads of geological maps of this area on the net. They almost always just label this succession as "Wealden". But, given it's shown as the only unit between the Gault Clay and the Purbeck Lst, it must refer to the whole supergroup. This is rather handy as a back view of the Door promontory. I strongly suspect the Wealden clays are present, given the labelling as "Wealden clays and sands" (...and from dim memories of being here myself as an undergrad), but safer to write around it. DanHobley (talk) 17:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't obvious from the article whether there's any Weald Clay within the Wealden deposits. This source refers to "The Lower Cretaceous Wealden Group is of fluvial sands and clays with some lignite beds. This unit is also vertical and the softer beds have been eroded out by running water so that it is marked by a series of gullies" so I'd be inclined to link to Wealden Supergroup and reword the article sentence so it reads "a narrow and compressed band of Cretaceous Wealden clays, sands and chert beds — and then narrow bands of Greensand and sandstone" as that avoids having to decide whether the clays are Weald Clay specifically. (However I'd like to point out that I'm not a geologist, so may be overlooking something here). PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Geology
Great work on the rewrites to this section. Much more comprehensible now to the interested non-specialist. Awien (talk) 12:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Tombstoning
Beachgoers watched in horror as the youngster plunged from the 200ft [?] high arch in the latest scare..
- "Tombstoning peril: Warning as teen jumps from Durdle Door". Dorset Echo. 2 July 2010.
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- 10 days later.. Monkey see..
"To find somebody of 75 doing it, I just find completely unbelievable.."
- "Man, 75, hurt in 'tombstone' cliff dive at Durdle Door". BBC News. 12 July 2010.
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- 'Elf 'n' safety be damned'
Christopher Irven is a grey-haired pensioner and former Royal Artillery Major with a gentle smile and the look of a man who's just stepped out of a TV commercial for Werther's Originals. And last weekend, he went 'tombstoning' ... But Irven says that things have just become a little overblown: 'All this talk about serious injury is codswallop' ... The day before, he says, he'd executed a normal practice dive from Durdle Door - 'It wasn't terrific, but it was OK'.
- "Elf 'n' safety be damned! The ex-Army major, 75, who leapt off Durdle Door tells his critics to go take a running jump". Daily Mail. 16 July 2010.
- Also this BBC News report (video) -- Hillbillyholiday talk 00:01, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think the Echo's "200 ft." figure is somewhat suspect [1].... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 00:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- No way.. Duurdle's much higher.. -- Hillbillyholiday talk 01:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think the Echo's "200 ft." figure is somewhat suspect [1].... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 00:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Sources for use in the article
British Beaches information, for use in a future 'Tourism and recreation' section? (Note the site's candidate for the Strapline of the Year - "Sand, sea, sun, surf and scones".....) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)