Talk:Earth Journalism Network

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I will begin fixing the biased edits in July 2019.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Theintern007 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)‎

COI Edit Request

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Hello, This article is currently almost completely unsourced. I think it would be more beneficial to remove a lot of the page because it has no citations. I'm not trying to control what is on the page, but the "work" section has no citations and should be removed. I think it could be replaced with the following, which I have complied using sources other than the company website and the most up to date information that is publicly available. == Current Programs == The Earth Journalism Network funds grants and fellowships for local reporters in over 70 countries. They also host workshops and information sessions to boost community knowledge of climate and environmental issues in the regions. Current projects include: Investigate Wildlife Tracking Partnered with Oxpeckers Investigative Environmental Journalism. Asia-Pacific project Bay of Bengal Climate Resiliency Initiative With the Centre for Media Studies in New Delhi. Biodiversity Media Initiative Partnered with the International Institute for Environment and Development and the International Union for Conservation of Nature. Climate Change Media Partnership With PANOS London and the International Institute for Environment and Development. Ocean Media Initiative Working with the Adessium Foundation UC Berkeley Earth Journalism Scholars Program References I appreciate anyone who takes the time to look this over. I know COI editors are against the purpose of Wikipedia and trust me when I say I wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't required to. If you deny the request, please let me know how I can improve it. Thank you again. Theintern007 (talk) 16:27, 30 July 2019 (UTC) Reply 30-JUL-2019 The following claims needs clarification: The Earth Journalism Network funds grants and fellowships for local reporters in over 70 countries. They also host workshops and information sessions to boost community knowledge of climate and environmental issues in the regions. Current projects include: The claim mentions grants and fellowships (boxed in red) and also mentions workshops and information sessions (boxed in orange). The sentence then goes on to mention projects (boxed in blue). The way projects is introduced in the paragraph seems to imply that these projects are workshops and grants and fellowships and information sessions. The problem here is that grants are not workshops and fellowships are not information sessions. Thus, when the sentence states "current programs include" and then begins to list these programs, it needs to be clear which of these four headings the programs fall under — because this is how the paragraph has been initially set up — as containing items which the Network either funds or hosts (e.g., "The Earth Journalism Network funds grants and fellowships for local reporters in over 70 countries. They also host workshops and information sessions...") The prose needs to follow-through with that setup by making sure the reader understands which program falls under which modality. Given the long-winded names of some of these programs (Biodiversity Media Initiative, Climate Change Media Partnership) that increased understanding would be most helpful. Another issue is that these "programs" need to be Wikilinked in their entirety. For example, if the Bay of Bengal Climate Resiliency Initiative is being mentioned as a singular program, then the Wikilink should be a singular WikiLink to that program. It ought not be a split Wikilink for Bay of Bengal and Climate resilience, which are two different things. Regards,  Spintendo  01:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC) @Spintendo: Thank you for your prompt response. For the prose, does this make things more clear? "The Earth Journalism Network's projects promote independent environmental journalism in over 70 countries. They funds grants and fellowships to local reporters and host workshops and information sessions to boost community knowledge of climate and environmental issues in the regions. Current projects receiving funding and support include:" A "project" means that they are providing both funding (grants & fellowships) and workshops/information sessions. Does that make it more understandable? Please let me know. I can also do a little summary of each project under its bullet point, if that would improve clarity. Just trying to avoid sounding like an advertisement or anything like that. For the links, I would just link the Bay of Bengal wiki then, I see how that's confusing. Thank you again! Theintern007 (talk) 13:50, 1 August 2019 (UTC) @Spintendo: Sorry to bother you, have you had a chance to look over these changes? Or should i resubmit as a new request? Theintern007 (talk) 02:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

COI Edit Request2 November 2019

Hello, I am proposing some extensive restructuring to this page to bring it up to Wikipedia standards and address the issues already tagged. Rather than list all the edits here, the full remake of the page can be viewed in my second sandbox at User:Theintern007/sandbox2 . I know there are a lot of sources so it may be a lot to ask one editor to look over, so I thank you in advance for looking over my request. If you reject the request, I would appreciate feedback on how to improve it for next time. Thank you, Theintern007 (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Reply 22-NOV-2019

Reply from Spintendo

Clarification requested   To expedite your request, it would help if you could provide the following information: Please state each specific desired change and accompanying reference in the form of verbatim statements which can then be added to the article (if approved) by the reviewer. (Note: Y This has already been provided.) The exact location where the desired claims are to be placed should be given. (Note: Y This has already been provided.) Exact, verbatim descriptions of any text and/or references to be removed should also be given. (Note: N This has not been provided.) Reasons should be provided for each change. (Note: N This has not been provided.) In the section of text below titled Sample edit request, the four required items are shown as an example: Sample edit request 1. Please remove the third sentence from the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 25 miles in length." 2. Please add the following claim as the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 864,337 miles in length." 3. Using as the reference: Paramjit Harinath (2019). The Sun. Academic Press. p. 1. 4. Reason for change being made: "The previously given diameter was incorrect." Kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed with all four items from your request. Thank you. Please also note that partnerships and initiatives are generally only added to an article when reliable, independent WP:SECONDARY sources have reported on them. References

Regards,  Spintendo  16:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

COI Edit Request December 3 2019

Hello, I am proposing some extensive restructuring to this page to bring it up to Wikipedia standards and address the issues already tagged. Rather than list all the edits here, the full remake of the page can be viewed in my second sandbox at User:Theintern007/sandbox2.

1. Please state each specific desired change and accompanying reference in the form of verbatim statements which can then be added to the article (if approved) by the reviewer.

View at User:Theintern007/sandbox2

1. The exact location where the desired claims are to be placed should be given.

View at User:Theintern007/sandbox2

1. Exact, verbatim descriptions of any text and/or references to be removed should also be given.

I think all the current text in the article should be removed. The relevant sourced information in the current version has been incorporated into the new version in my sandbox. That which is unsourced is not.

1. Reasons should be provided for each change.

The reason for this overhaul of the page is the flagged issue at the top of the article. By making the requested changes, I am addressing the two issues that I can fix-

This article needs additional citations for verification. (March 2013)

This article needs additional or more specific categories. (July 2019)

I have added more organization and categories, as well as sources, which the article really needed.

As for the "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for companies and organizations. (March 2013)" template, I would argue that the revised article meets Wikipedia's definition of notability. I've obviously over-sourced the article in an attempt to be thorough, but there are several in depth articles about the company which establish its notability.

I know there are a lot of sources so it may be a lot to ask one editor to look over, so I thank you in advance for looking over my request. If you reject the request, I would appreciate feedback on how to improve it for next time. Thank you,

Theintern007 (talk) 14:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Reply 05-DEC-2019

  Edit request declined  

• Thank you for providing the requested information, it is much appreciated.
• In answer to the question of what text should be deleted, the COI editor indicated that all of the text in the current version of the article should be deleted. Based on that response, the request for a single neutral editor to carry out these revisions is declined — the reason being, that major changes involving the entirety of an article's text require the consensus of local editors.
• To that end, the COI editor is asked to continue the conversation about these changes here, with local editors on the talk page. The use of the {{request edit}} template is not necessary for that discussion.
• The COI editor may also wish to seek local editor consensus by visiting the talk pages of the WikiProjects which govern this article. Those projects are usually listed at the top of an article's talk page.

Regards,  Spintendo  11:38, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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@Spintendo: It looks like you have been the only significant contributor since the SPA created the article years ago. Not sure how much additional input we can expect, given the complete silence since the July requests. Since you did a fair amount of trimming, do you have an opinion about whether the new proposed article would require similar trimming? The new version appears more comprehensive to me (I've only looked over it quickly), and I wouldn't mind working on some of the minutiae if I felt that it had a chance of remaining (i.e., being merged into the current article and passing the notability question mentioned somewhere earlier). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)