Talk:East Aberdeenshire (UK Parliament constituency)

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Merge Aberdeen and Kincardine East (UK Parliament constituency) into East Aberdeenshire (UK Parliament constituency)?[edit]

The 1918 to 1950 Aberdeen and Kincardine East constituency was entirely within the county of Aberdeen. It covered no part of the county of Kincardine. Laurel Bush 13:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Cannot see the value of a merger - they are separate constituencies, and the fact that they were both within the county of Aberdeen does not seem to be of particular reference. Once the lists of election results are filled out, they will both be substantial articles.--George Burgess 14:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have had major problems locating Aberdeen and Kincardine East (UK Parliament constituency), because of the fact that the constituency is not so named in a particular publication about boundaries. I imagine that for the period there may have been also an Ayr and Bute Central, but I have yet to see that name used in preference to Ayrshire Central or Central Ayrshire. Laurel Bush 17:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

1868 boundaries[edit]

That list of parishes is interesting. Is it a list used in the 1868 legislation? Looks like it might be a list compiled at a later date, after county boundaries had been changed, under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1889, for all purposes except parliamentary representation. Laurel Bush 09:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, the list of parishes is taken from Schedule (B) to the 1868 Act, which defined the divisions of counties. The Schedule is in a 4-column format, the first setting out the "Name of County to be divided", the second the "Division", the third the "Parts temporarily comprised in such Division" (and containing the list of parishes or parts thereof), and the fourth setting out the "Place for proclaiming Writ". As the article already states that this is the source, I have removed your tag--George Burgess 14:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So why does the list appear to contain a parish in the county of Banff? Laurel Bush 09:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Because that is what the 1868 Act says! The parish of St. Fergus was an exclave of Banffshire, located deep within Aberdeenshire. For Parliamentary purposes, it made sense for it to be dealt with as part of East Aberdeenshire. Similarly, West Aberdeenshire contained the parish of Gartly, also part of Banffshire.--George Burgess 19:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. And did the earlier Aberdeenshire constituency include the enclaves? And, in 1868, was any part of the county of Aberdeen included in another constituency? Also, would be nice to know whether the Aberdeen burgh constituency included any areas outside the burgh, and whether creation of Aberdeen North and Aberdeen South, 1885, affected boundaries of Eastern and Western Aberdeenshire constituencies. Laurel Bush 11:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]