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WhichGreen numbers[edit]

I notice that the league table for 2005 is now available and ecotricity's spend per customer is significantly lower (£901 -> £117). I'm assuming this is because their customer count has increased by a good multiple. Does anyone have the numerators and denominators (ie spend and customer count) for each company? MikesPlant 10:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They estimate by the end of 2007 they will have 25,000 customers. Even at £100 per customer this is £25M on new generating capacity which is colossal for a small company.

The 2004 percentiage of "green" electricity is indeed 14.4% but this rose to 22.1% in 2005 and an estimated 30% for 2007 (though table says 2006) using figures taken from their annual report .http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/ezine/20060926/pdf/EcoReport2006.pdf

In 2007 they estimate they will generate over 70 million units of electricity from wind.

I tried but could not edit the article!

A leaflet I just got in the mail says that "96% of electricity used by us comes from renewable, green sources." So is it 30% or 96%? I'd appreciate any hints because I was considering switching to them! :) 86.140.244.53 11:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the 'criticism' section - someone has started to compare Ecotricity's tariff to good energy, ie. 20% vs 100% - I haven't time to look into changing it right now - but Ecotricity have two tariffs - New Energy and New Energy Plus. New Energy Plus is 100% green tariff for those that want it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.238.239 (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Which was first?[edit]

I see that the Good Energy article has recently claimed that they were the first (1999) UK wind-gen electricity supplier. The Ecotricity article doesn't have a clear start date for re-selling their power. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya Andy - Paul, Online Community Manager from Ecotricity here.

Delabole *was* the UKs first commercial wind farm, completed in 1991. But Good Energy didn't build it. They bought it from the owners in 2002 after 11 years. We built our first grid connected turbine in 1996 and on 1st April 1996 we supplied our first customer - Cheltenham & Gloucester Further Education (who are still customers!).

Does that help clarify? Cheers (Paulecotricity (talk) 15:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Controversy[edit]

Manufactured controversy or just deliberately misleading? The mysterious author of this latest edit uses ‘weasel words’ to imply that the director’s loans (which are very commonplace & are preferable to dividends in that loans are a company asset which must be repaid) and ecobonds are directly linked & that this somehow constitutes controversy. This is not true. As can be seen in Ecotricity’s accounts & in the ecobond offer documentation & FAQ, if the funds raised by ecobonds were used for anything other than the purpose expressly outlined, then this would be a very serious breach. Contrary to the “weasel words”, the citation used makes no such connection. Indeed it makes the correct position very clear:

“Thus while Ecotricity Group Limited have not declared a dividend, and whilst there is no correlation between the loan and the ecobond, there has been signficant advantage to Dale and Kate Vince from the company this year over and above their Director's emoluments of £148,875.”

I will not delete/edit this myself as I am employed by the subject of this page & this could be seen as self-promotion. However - it is important to bear in mind the counterpoint to this principle "Wikipedia is not a place to hold grudges, import personal conflicts, carry on ideological battles, or nurture prejudice, hatred, or fear.”

We feel strongly that we have a right to respond positively to this edit and to correct its inaccuracies. I'd say this deserves a 'disputed' tag.

--Paulecotricity (talk) 11:53, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

I did some minor cleanups, and removed the unsourced remnants of the above WP:BLP violation... . This paragraph in the controversy section doesn't appear to be an Ecotricity topic, but a Dale one, so I moved here pending moving to his article:

In the year to 30 April 2011 Ecotricity owner Dale Vince purchased a 71% shareholding in football club Forest Green Rovers F.C. at a cost of £695,000. Dale Vince is the company's main Director and only shareholder and is now Chairman of the football club.[1] He used his influence to ban all red meat being sold at the club[2] and to use manure on the pitch, creating the only organic football pitch in the world.[3] Widefox; talk 22:34, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Arabella Murphy (8 November 2011). "Press release: Ecotricity bond launch great for financing renewables, but Investors must understand the risks". Worldwise Investor.
  2. ^ "Burger ban begins at Forest Green Rovers football club". BBC News. 10 February 2011.
  3. ^ "Forest Green Rovers spread manure on football pitch". BBC News. 15 June 2011.

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Martin Alder whitewash[edit]

The current history of Ecotricity section is the version of events which Dale Vince talks about, but is completely untrue. Vince actually seized control of Ecotricity which had been initially founded and registered by Martin Alder. See Alder's obituary here: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/26/martin-alder-obituary and original companies house appointment of director here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/BlREX%2BGJ0205-870856_4-12723584.pdf An article from 1996 confirms that Alder and Karen Lane ran Renewable Energy Company at that time, and Vince was simply an advisor: https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/963939/first-british-broker-renewable-energy-clean-power-trading-outside-nffo-protection A 1997 Open University article says has REC getting its energy from landfill gas and hydro, and again quotes Alder: http://eeru.open.ac.uk/natta/rol9.html In contrast, the article says Ecotricity ran a wind turbine in 1997 (it didn't) and cites an interview with Dale Vince claiming as such. Unfortunately, it seems Vince has been very good at whitewashing his past, so other sources will be hard to come by. Wikiditm (talk) 16:59, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As nobody seems to be disputing you I am removing the disputed tag - so I suggest you amend the article and see whether anyone does dispute you in which case you could put the tag back. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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