Talk:Effective giving

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Cleanup: Rewrite[edit]

This article reads like a how-to guide. It explicitly addresses the reader ("you can save a life"). Its sources provide examples, but do not address effective giving in general. Some pretty significant claims (for example about "the overwhelming inefficiency that has plagued professional athletes’ personal charities in recent history") are unsourced. In short, the article as it stands is a mess in violation of multiple guidelines and policies, in particular WP:NOT, WP:V, WP:NPOV and the manual of style. It needs either outright deletion or a complete rewrite based on reliable sources that actually cover the subject. Huon (talk) 23:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will work to improve this article as time permits.Ianlavoie (talk) 02:31, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the criticism of significant unsourced claims, I will note they are sourced, but in the paragraph below which describes the issue in more detail. Regardless, I have changed the wording to be more neutralIanlavoie (talk) 01:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into effective altruism[edit]

I'm proposing a merger into the Effective Altruism page. I think all the content could simply be added in.

'Effective altruism' is the more established term among active people in the movement (e.g., Peter Singer's TED talk).

Whoistheroach (talk) 21:36, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a good idea - 'effective altruism' is indeed the more established term. Thomas Ash (talk) 08:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend to keep both terms seperately. 'Effective altruism' has a strong focus on the moral obligation for giving and related lifestyle choices, whereas "Effective Giving" is focussed just on allocating donations to the most effective charities without necessarily any moral aspect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.163.57.64 (talk) 05:26, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see this distinction as a very good one. There are plenty of people in the EA movement who don't make significant lifestyle changes as well as plenty who are moral anti-realists. "Effective giving" is not an actual community, it's just a catchphrase that basically refers to the ideas of effective altruism. K.Bog 19:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. All the principles and information here either are in the EA article or they should be.K.Bog 19:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Merge. KBog did an excellent job merging in HIP and I see nothing here that couldn't be similarly merged. Nkn7391 (talk) 17:53, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look like we're going to get many more comments. Nkn7391 (talk) 22:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. In theory, effective giving might be a broader concept that is not restricted to the effective altruism movement. But looking at page, it basically just duplicates content and links that are here. So merging/deleting could make sense. RyanCarey1 (talk) 23:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I've been busy but I think I'll do it this weekend.K.Bog 06:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]