Talk:Emiratis in the United Kingdom

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Community section[edit]

I have just removed the community section, which was previously removed but recently re-added without explanation. I explained the removal in the edit summary when I initially removed it. I will explain what is wrong with the section in more detail here.

The first sentence ("Statistically, citizens of UAE staying in Britain form the largest group of Emiratis abroad") is unsourced. We then hear that Emiratis face few visa restrictions when travelling to England (it should read the UK, not England). This is sourced, but all the source really says is that visas tend to be processed quickly. In any case, this is irrelevant since it is about Emiratis visiting the UK, not migrating there (the source says nothing about work permits). There is then a sentence about issues that Emiratis face when living in the UK. This can probably stand, though it needs to be noted that the source is talking specifically about students. We then have a sentence about the attractiveness of London to Emirates. Again, the source is talking about visitors, not immigrants (the source states: "When visiting England, especially its capital, they feel it is close to their hearts, starting from the good sentiments together with everything that satisfies the taste of Gulf nations in relation to culinary and dress code"). We then have a sentence about the Dubai National Bank, which is from the same source and which quotes it word-for-word without quote marks, which constitutes plagiarism. We then have a statement about Emirates feeling at home in London, based on a source that, again, doesn't really talk about Emirati immigrants. The statement about London being called the "eighth emirate" of the UAE is irrelevant since the source attributes this to the relationship between the countries, not the presence of Emiratis in London. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:37, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there should be an issue of most Emiratis in the UK being students. An expatriate is still an expatriate. The basic definition of the word is: "An expatriate (in abbreviated form, expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. Mar4d (talk) 08:29, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. That's why I stated above that the sentence about students should stay. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Part of your deletion summary states: "The article relies solely on a population figure from the census and a few statistics on student numbers." Mar4d (talk) 09:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see what you're saying now. Perhaps you should mention that in the AfD discussion rather than here. My problem is that I don't think a small number of articles about Emirati students in the UK constitutes significant coverage, which is what is required by WP:NOTABILITY. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expatriate citations[edit]

Umm....why are you adding 'citation needed' tags to expatriates when their article states them as residents in UK? Mar4d (talk) 08:56, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because Wikipedia can't be used as a source for other Wikipedia articles. If reliable sources exist for those articles, they should be used here as well. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:59, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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