Talk:Endemism in the Hawaiian Islands

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Inappropriate tone[edit]

This article sounds too conversational. It lacks the formal tone of an encyclopedia.

"Distance—remoteness—is a filter. And of those germs of life that occasionally made it through, how many found their way into a suitable microclimate? Whether a seed or spore attached to a lost migrating bird's feather or an insect falling out of the high winds, put there by a storm in its homeland—of these, how many found a place to survive and whatever else was needed to reproduce?"

This quote demonstrates how conversational the article is. I'm not an expert, but putting forward questions, then answering them sounds too casual. Its not just this isolated quote; there are other places. Therefore, I have posted a box on the top of this page. SeanMD80^{talk | contribs} 20:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile, it was written by an expert. —Viriditas | Talk 11:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a disjointed mess of inchohesive sentences and bad grammar. No sources cited. Three of the four external links are all 404. I'm not sure what the original point was.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.88.149.218 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rebuild it?[edit]

There are quite a few quality issues with this article. Anyway, were we to solve them, I think it would be appropriate to rename the article, too. A better name would be Flora and fauna in (the) Hawaii (Islands). This would be more in line with other articles describing the wildlife of countries and (eco)regions, and would widen the scope of the article to include the issue of invase species. What do you think? Steinbach (talk) 09:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I concur (partly)[edit]

Yes, this article definitely needs a complete overhaul, including authoritative PRIMARY references.

However, Hawaii has the highest endemism rates (in a number of broad taxonomic groups) of any place on the planet, so I think it is appropriate to retain the title of the article, possibly alongside another "Flora and fauna..." article, but with the "Endemism..." article having a more specific scope. philiptdotcom (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Island formations[edit]

I believe it would be beneficial to add estimated dates of island formations. Island formation dates could be a start to deeper discussions and correlations between time and species divergence. Bennett.896 (talk) 20:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fleischer, RC; McIntosh, CE; Tarr, CL (1998). "Evolution on a volcanic conveyor belt: using phylogeographic reconstructions and K-Ar - based ages of the Hawaiian Islands to estimate molecular evolutionary rates". Molecular ecology. 7: 533–545.

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