Talk:Equal Strain on All Parts
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"Final album" wording[edit]
I'm trying to "future-proof" the wording in the WP:LEAD. Major artists frequently release posthumous album releases. Michael Jackson, Tupac, Juice Wrld, etc etc. Buffett recorded music for 50 years. Its very likely there will someday be "vault" releases, things pieced together after the fact, etc.
I prefer the wording "final album to be released prior to his death" rather than just "final album" because of this. This is future proof. It can literally never change. It will always be correct. Sergecross73 msg me 18:33, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- There is no evidence to suggest that anything will come in the future. This is being described by almost every source as being the *final* album.
- If it ends up to where there is another album of unreleased material, then we can always change it. It’s not that hard. ChristianJosephAllbee (talk) 23:48, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- The wording doesn't suggest more is coming, it's just worded in a way that is both correct now and down the line if things changed. The wordings aren't mutually exclusive. They're both true, one is just a more specific version of the same thing. It's not like we're looking at a color and I say it's red and you say it's green and only one of us can be right. It's more like I'm saying something is light green and you're trying to argue that light green isn't a shade of green or something. Sergecross73 msg me 00:40, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- It is normal on this website to word something as being final if it is stated as such in the references. Every one of the reference links in this article describe it as the final album. Period.
- It would be one thing to state it’s the final album before his death if the links said it, it’s another to add on to it without any references. One thing that this platform strives to do is give information as accurately as possible, which goes back to my point that we must assume this is his final album *until* something changes, not before. ChristianJosephAllbee (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- And an equal number of sources allude to how he finished recording it just prior to his death. So writing a phrase like "final album recorded prior to his death" is sourced as well. Sergecross73 msg me 00:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then those sources are the ones that need to be included ChristianJosephAllbee (talk) 01:50, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Music Times, reliable per WP:RSMUSIC, says it quite literally, with Jimmy Buffett's Final Album Recorded Before His Death To Arrive in Fall, while sources already in the article, like USA Today, say it in indirect terms like There was never a question whether Jimmy Buffett’s 50-plus years of music would live on following his death last week. But while the memory of his classics will linger in the annals of music history, Buffett left fans a parting gift: “Equal Strain on All Parts,” his final album recorded this year. Sergecross73 msg me 16:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then those sources are the ones that need to be included ChristianJosephAllbee (talk) 01:50, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- And an equal number of sources allude to how he finished recording it just prior to his death. So writing a phrase like "final album recorded prior to his death" is sourced as well. Sergecross73 msg me 00:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- The wording doesn't suggest more is coming, it's just worded in a way that is both correct now and down the line if things changed. The wordings aren't mutually exclusive. They're both true, one is just a more specific version of the same thing. It's not like we're looking at a color and I say it's red and you say it's green and only one of us can be right. It's more like I'm saying something is light green and you're trying to argue that light green isn't a shade of green or something. Sergecross73 msg me 00:40, 13 September 2023 (UTC)