Talk:Eros the Bittersweet

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Notability & Redirect[edit]

Hello @Onel5969: I wanted to discuss the possibility of reverting your redirect, and creating the Eros the Bittersweet page.

You are right that as the page stood, the book's notability was not clear – I culled existing information from the main Anne Carson page (which I am currently in the process of reworking) and moved it here as a stub to be expanded in due course.

However, I do believe the book meets Wikipedia's standards for notability, more specifically (and with selected references):

– The book has been the subject of published works.[1][2][3]

– The book has been the subject of instruction and research at universities.[4][5][6]

– The book (Carson's first, and a reworking of her 1981 doctoral thesis) has been recognised as a significant part of her oeuvre that influenced her subsequent works: in the words of Ian Rae, it is this book in which she "formulated the ideas on desire that would come to dominate her poetic output".[7]

– Regarding her subsequent output, Carson meets standards of notability as the recipient of numerous honours for her writing (including: Griffin Poetry Prize (twice),[8][9] Guggenheim Fellowship,[10] Lannan Literary Award,[11] MacArthur Fellowship,[12] Member of the Order of Canada,[13] Princess of Asturias Award for Literature,[14] T. S. Eliot Prize).[15]

– John D'Agata has described the book's growing recognition in the fifteen years after it was published in 1986: the book "first stunned the classics community as a work of Greek scholarship; then it stunned the nonfiction community as an inspired return to the lyrically based essays once produced by Seneca, Montaigne, and Emerson; and then, and only then, deep into the 1990s, reissued as 'literature' and redesigned for an entirely new audience, it finally stunned the poets."[16]

– By the late 1990s / early 2000s, the book had also entered into popular culture, voted onto the 1999 Modern Library Reader's List for the 100 Best Nonfiction books of the 20th century,[17] and referenced (alongside Autobiography of Red) in The L Word.[18]

I hope this information answers your reservations. If you are agreed, I would like to revert the redirect, and expand the stub to include some of the above, clarifying the book's notability.

Many thanks for your time! Kyrichips (talk) 20:31, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969: Me again! I just wanted to give you a heads up that I am going to undo your redirect and try to get the page up to notability standard for a stub with a selection from the above references, using an {{under construction}}/{{in use}} in the meantime (I'm learning…!). Please let's talk here if you have any advice. Thanks again! Kyrichips (talk) 22:47, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Baker, David; Townsend, Ann, eds. (2007). Radiant Lyre: Essays on Lyric Poetry. Saint Paul, Minneapolis: Graywolf Press.
  2. ^ Wilkinson, Joshua Marie, ed. (2015). Anne Carson: Ecstatic Lyre. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. ISBN 978-0-472-05253-0.
  3. ^ Pérez-Gomez, Alberto (2006). Built upon Love: Architectural Longing after Ethics and Aesthetics. Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Press. ISBN 9780262162388.
  4. ^ "Fall 2001 Course Offerings: Introduction to Literary Forms, Comparing Lyric Traditions". UC Berkeley: Department of Comparative Literature. University of California, Berkeley. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  5. ^ "Department of English and Film Studies: Anne Carson's Strange Hybrids". University of Alberta. 2018. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  6. ^ "Decreations: A Graduate Symposium on the Work of Anne Carson". Poetry @ Princeton. Princeton University. 2015. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  7. ^ Rae, Ian (27 December 2001). "Anne Carson". The Literary Encyclopedia. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  8. ^ "Anne Carson: Griffin Poetry Prize 2001". The Griffin Trust for Excellence in Poetry. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  9. ^ "Anne Carson: Griffin Poetry Prize 2014". The Griffin Trust for Excellence in Poetry. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  10. ^ "Fellows: Anne Carson". John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  11. ^ "Anne Carson: 1996 Lannan Literary Award for Poetry". Lannan Foundation. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  12. ^ "MacArthur Fellows Program: Anne Carson, Poet and Classicist". MacArthur Foundation. 1 July 2000. Retrieved 12 September 2012.
  13. ^ "Order of Canada: Anne Carson, C.M." Governor General of Canada Archives. 29 June 2005. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  14. ^ "Anne Carson: Princess of Asturias Award for Literature 2020". Fundación Princesa de Asturias. Retrieved 18 June 2020.
  15. ^ "About the T. S. Eliot Prize: List of Previous Winners". T. S. Eliot Foundation. Retrieved 12 September 2020.
  16. ^ D'Agata, John (1 June 2000). "Review: Men in the Off Hours". Boston Review. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  17. ^ "Modern Library: 100 Best Nonfiction". Modern Library. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
  18. ^ O'Rourke, Meghan (11 February 2004). "Hermetic Hotties: What is Anne Carson doing on The L Word?". Slate. Retrieved 16 September 2020.
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