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Relevance[edit]

I Edited the fleet list into the two separate entities i.e. the Cargo Division and the passenger carrying Division. 138.251.249.145 06:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Etihad Airways are getting worse and worse over time. They have not any dedicated facility or seating for disabled passengers. 172.216.106.222

And what relevance does that have to the betterment of this article???? ARTooD2 04:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't. I just thought i'dd add it. 172.216.106.222

fair nuff:p...but they seem to have got better since the first time I flew them... anyhoo...aye... 138.251.249.145 13:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance of the page[edit]

The Etihad Airways Article deserves better maintenance as the alphabetical listings of its destinations were out of order before I fixed them, for a long time.--195.229.242.54 12:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Focus Cities/Secondary Hubs[edit]

I have removed the Focus Cities/Secondary Hubs from the table at the top of the article because Emirates is a competetive airline and won't allow Etihad to fly Dubai, which it doesn't according to Wikipedia's article on DXB; so saying, if an airline doesn't fly to the latter airport, then it cannot be a Secondary Hub of the respective airline.--195.229.242.54 12:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Logo at the top of he page[edit]

Would someone please change the logo of Crystal Cargo back to the original airlines in the table at the top of the page. Thank you --195.229.242.88 06:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy Section[edit]

Why was this deemed "unencyclopedic" and removed? If you Google for the story, and click the "news" option on Google, you will find hundreds of newspapers around the world following the plight of 2 Australian drunkards who were detained in the UAE. With such vast international news interest, isn't that notable enough to be included in Wikipedia? If you want to see the original Controversy section that was deleted, it was created on 02:10, 6-June-2007 in the history section. I find the rest of the Etihad page to be unencyclopedic, as it is just an advertising brochure for Etihad (who probably wrote it). The controversial stuff is what makes Wikipedia interesting. 203.217.64.50 02:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Restored Controversy section. You can find it in the History section at the date 23:45, 7 June 2007. Slightly reworded this time, references fixed and more references added. It is a world first that someone has been fined for drinking aboard a flight. 210.84.40.121 23:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Written like an Advertisement[edit]

This whole Wikipedia Etihad page is like an advertisement. All the stuff about the classes and comforts aboard Etihad is identical to what is in Etihad's advertising brochures. I don't know why I would bother reading Wikipedia if I can get the identical page straight from Etihad's brochure. I have added an Advert tag to this page 210.84.40.121 23:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest AFD--Edtropolis 17:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe the article should be deleted entirely. Etihad is a major airline and as such deserves a Wiki page along with other airlines of its size and status. But parts of the article should be rewritten so that it is not advertising. 203.166.255.9 02:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"A-380" Photo[edit]

How is it there is a photo of an A380 on the tarmac when the A380 isn't even scheduled for delivery to the airline (by the same article) until 2012!? If it is a rendered mockup, it should be so noted, or deleted. Noone is scheduled to have an A380 in service until October 2007. mercator79 22:15 6 June 2007 (UTC)

In July 2006, Airbus sent one of the A380s they use for test flights (MSN004 with registration F-WWDD to be exact) to Abu Dhabi. As a sort of courtesy to Etihad, Airbus painted the front of the aircraft in Etihad's livery. A source (picture included) of this can be found here, for instance. When I say "painted the front of the aircraft", I'm actually lying, because the aircraft only wore removable stickers for the occasion. Nevertheless, the picture in question does show an actual A380, displaying Etihad colours on the tarmac of Abu Dhabi airport. Not only that, but the aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to none other than Etihad once the flight test campaign is finished (what Airbus is going to do with the aircraft between 2008 and the reescheduled [at Etihad's request] delivery in 2012/13, I have no idea, though). So it is by all means an Etihad Airways A380 on the tarmac in Abu Dhabi. Hope this bit of info is helpful :-) --afromme 20:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article Too Big[edit]

Every time I return to this article it has grown bigger. But not with useful information. Just corporate babble about Marketing, and a Hotel Investment Conference. I want to see different things in the Wiki article to what is on Etihad's corporate website. 124.168.21.24 12:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war — warning[edit]

As a specialised journalist, I do not have the same look at Etihad as anonymous or half-an's (IPs and such codenames ain't signatures) 89.242.124.167, GS350, 45HG23 (would you prefer another color?).
Wikipedia is no place for advertising: take a look at how American Airlines, the 1st airline in the world, is presented and look what you, afore-mentioned, are trying to do here… What makes Etihad so special, apart from particular advertising capability and three (?) good servants here. You may want to refer to the way Emirates is treated here, and you would be quite right, except that this one, too, may need some cleanup. Once more: Wikipedia is neither Le Bourget nor an agora for ads and counter-campaigns. What's more, Etihad ain't no major airline, whatever you pretend — how would you qualify, AA, BA, AF, JAL and a bunch of others, then? The sky's the limit!
Furthermore, I do not bias articles (whatever my opinion about an airline); you do just the contrary in various ways. You can see below miscellaneous (and mostly not anonymous) point of views which are not reflected in the article: «Etihad Airways are getting worse and worse», «What relevance does that have to the betterment of this article?», «they seem to have got better since the first time I flew them» (I personally have to add that it wasn't better on my last flight, five weeks ago…), «I find the rest of the Etihad page to be unencyclopedic», «This whole Wikipedia Etihad page is like an advertisement. All the stuff about the classes and comforts aboard Etihad is identical to what is in Etihad's advertising brochures. I don't know why I would bother reading Wikipedia if I can get the identical page straight from Etihad's brochure.», «Every time I return to this article it has grown bigger, but not with useful information: just corporate babble about Marketing, and a Hotel Investment Conference».
I ask for arbitration and mediation. — Іван Коренюк ψ Ivan Korenyuk 08:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I took the liberty to edit the article - heavily. There is for instance no need to mention the "World Travel Awards" in the article, especially when there's a dedicated "Awards" subchapter. Furthermore, I condensed the subchapters on Etihad's classes. There is absolutely no need to detail, in pretty much the same terms a PR brochure would use, all the amenities offered in Etihad's different classes. You will not find this sort of info in any other Wikipedia article on any other airline. So I condensed it to general information on personal IFE and the availability of classes on different airplanes. Fleet info - no need to mention each and every order Etihad placed when there's a rather detailed fleet list. Also, A320s have not been added to the fleet yet and there has not been an official order with Airbus for A320s, although that order was announced. General policy here is not to list orders until they are firm, i.e. listed in Airbus' official books. As of 31-08-2007, there these list no A320 order by Etihad. However, Etihad has ordered one A330-300 which the article did not list so far. Restructured the article as well. There's probably still room for improvements, but I'm confident that the article in its current shape forms a decent basis for such improvements.--afromme 21:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I reckon that the "advert" tag can now be removed. Any opinions?--afromme 21:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re: fleet: apologies, one A320, operated by Lat Charter, has recently been leased. Still - no official order has been placed.-afromme 21:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Anyone object to placing a references tag at the top of the page as the article lacks lots of references as indicated by the 'citation needed' tags at the top of paragraphs. Bthebest (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why is range type different on A350 + B787?[edit]

Down on the aircraft list, the A350-900 is listed as Ultra Long Haul, and the 787-9 as Long Haul when the 787-9 has more range? Any answers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.129.51 (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

I don't see the relevance of the content under the controversy title. Loads of flights around the world have to deal with people on board for being disobedient or acting dangerously everyday. This is no different. Just because this got news attention doesnt make it any different from other daily cases. If it was significant, then it was more of an incident then a controversy.--إماراتي 1971 (talk) 13:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance?[edit]

How is this statement relevent to an article on an International Airline?: Quoting from Section 1 of the Wiki "Unfortunately their website rarely works from the UK making booking online difficult. This is somewhat surprising given the stated ambitions for the airline." 99.229.96.238 (talk) 17:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, so I have removed the statement (but no need to have asked here, just remove it yourself because anyone can edit Wikipedia!) - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


FLEET ORDERS[edit]

Etihad Airways has 10 firm orders for Boeing 777-300ERs and NOT 11.
If it ordered 1 extra 777-300ER ,why the news has'nt come on the Boeing website?
THIS IS THE LINK DATED MARCH 2009 that shows the Boeing 777 orders and deliveries for every airline till now:-
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/displaystandardreport.cfm?cboCurrentModel=777&optReportType=AllModels&cboAllModel=777&ViewReportF=View+Report/
Same goes with A320-200s and A340-600s.
Etihad has ordered 20 firm A320-200s and NOT 24
Etihad still has orders for 3 more A340-600s
The Airbus Orders and Deliveries dated 31st March,2009 clearly says all this. DOWNLOAD IT AND SEE IT http://www.airbus.com/en/corporate/orders_and_deliveries/# (click on "click here" to downlaod the Excel document which shows the orders and deliveries of each and every Airbus Aircraft to each and every airline right from the launch of A300s in 1970s).
Some people are showing Etihad has 11 777-300ERs and 24 A320-200s and 2 A340-600s on order, THEY ARE JUST WRITING THIS WITHOUT ANY PROOF OR LINKS TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE RIGHT.
PLEASE DO NOT INCREASE THE ORDERS JUST TO MAKE THE AIRLINE LOOK BIGGER.

(Druid.raul (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Please do not use upper case letters it is considered rude. I have corrected the fleet list to the latest refs. Any changes will be reverted unless editors can provided reliable (non-amateur and non-blog) references for changes. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 13:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Started routes[edit]

I removed new destinations from the new destinations table as they had started, an IP has reverted suggesting that it would be an idea to keep a record of routes started in 2009. Not sure why keeping a list of routes in 2009 is any more encyclopedic than listing those started in previous years. The started routes are listed in the separate destinations article. Any comments please, thanks MilborneOne (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new destinations for 2009[edit]

Millibourne, I thought it would be good idea for all new destinations being started in 2009 to remain in that table through the year, same will be done in future, since 2008 is over its destinations cannot be listed.116.71.34.54 (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

الإتحاد‎, ʼal-ʻitiħād etymology[edit]

Does anybody wish to know that itihad means union or united/conglomerated? And there goes ... The United Airlines in Arabic. Hence Jewish Anderstein (talk) 23:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leased A330s?[edit]

In the pictures, one of the A332s has the PW4000 engines, and the other two pictured have the Trent 700s. Are some of them leased, or do they have some interesting engine deal? Mgw89 (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The odd one in the images is A6-EYB with PW engines (A330-223) it was leased in, all the current fleet are Trent-powered (A330-*43). MilborneOne (talk) 15:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected[edit]

Since Manchester City renamed the City of Manchester Stadium the Etihad Stadium the red half of Manchester seems to be convinced that Etihad means United and there have been plenty of edits of that nature to this page. This article notes that "Etihad" can have many meanings including "united" but that should not be the sole meaning mentioned here. I tried to reference and mediate by providing the literal translation as given in the said article but IPs have been replacing words with "united". The exact meaning of the word isn't even that important to this article and the edit wars seem unnecessary, in fact I'm not even sure it needs mentioning at all. Until a satisfactory resolution can be reached I've semi-protected. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:04, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Etihad Translation[edit]

There seems to be lots of changing as to what Etihad means in English. I have come across conflicting information as to what it means. Maybe the sentence should be removed as we can't seem to settle on a meaning? To be honest i dont really see this as key information anyway. --JetBlast (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly doesnt appear to be that important and doesnt need to be in the lead. MilborneOne (talk) 15:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Again its been changed, anyone else have any input if to get that sentence removed? Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 23:56, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BOLDly removed. I mentioned removal when I semi-protected (post above) but I have a sneaky suspicion some IP/user will try and re-add some variant of the united translation soon. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flag Carrier[edit]

Just wanted to set something straight. Just because it is headquartered in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the UAE, doesn't make it the national flag carrier. It is A NATIONAL CARRIER, but it is not THE FLAG CARRIER. Case in point: Lufthansa is the flag carrier of Germany, but its base of operations is in Dusseldorf, not Berlin. If anything, Emirates would be set to become the national carrier because of its history and its size in the market. Each, if not most, emirate in the UAE has its own national carrier. An emirate is like a province or a state, thus the title United Arab Emirates. There is no one flag carrier. There are two national carriers, with a few other minor ones like Dnata. It's quite possible to have this. Ukraine has two as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.203.80 (talk) 05:18, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the Flag carrier article lists two for the UAE, with reliable sources for both. --- TheChampionMan1234 07:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A-340-600 write-off[edit]

Why is there no mention of this incident??? Censorship???Petebutt (talk) 17:06, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This incident was with Airbus not Etihad, the aircraft hadn't been delivered. --JetBlast (talk) 14:54, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Petebutt, JetBlast. Why is it included in the article if it wasn't an accident by Etihad? ( SailingOn (talk) 05:47, 1 November 2017 (UTC) )[reply]

"Six Continents" club[edit]

I've opened a discussion on the following passage, which appears in similar form on a number of pages including this one:

Etihad Airways, along with British Airways, Delta Air Lines, Emirates, Korean Air, Qantas, Qatar Airways, Singapore Airlines, South African Airways and United Airlines, is one of the few carriers to have services to all six inhabited continents.

Please SEE HERE. HAdG (talk) 20:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Livery[edit]

Can someone fix that link in mentioned section ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.135.50.156 (talk) 17:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Etihad translation. 2[edit]

(See July 2011 above) Etihad (disambiguation) Etihad, from the Arabic for "union"

Doesn’t seem controversial.

But I couldn’t find a story (any story) for who chose it, or why.

And name origins are important! (For an encyclopaedia).

MBG02 (talk) 01:35, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 'Notes' tab should be removed[edit]

In my opinion, the 'Notes' tab in the article should be removed if no notes can be added to it as in my opinion it is pointless having an empty tab within the article. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 10:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Structure[edit]

Recommend to update the Structure section to reflect the current Board of directors. The current board is listed here - https://www.etihadaviationgroup.com/en-ae/about/leadership Lauraabudhabi (talk) 05:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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