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A fact from Europa (1991 film) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 December 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Zentropa is the name of both Lars von Trier's production company and his third theatrical feature film, released in 1991?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/December.

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Change article name?[edit]

The name of this film is "Europa". Is there a Wikipedia policy on using alternate titles as article titles if the original is not the same as the one for the American market? If not, this film should be referred to as "Europa" and the article should have that title [or "Europa (film)"].—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.42.118 (talk • contribs)

The policy is to always use the English title. I'm not sure in this case, because as far as I know it was released as "Europa" in UK. Zentropa is the name of LvT's production company, so we might have to disambiguate. --Maitch 08:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The recent DVD rerelease in Australia is called "Europa". Apparently the original title was changed in some regions to avoid confusion with the film "Europa Europa", which had come out just before. "Europa" was the orginal title, the title the director intended, and the title under which it was released in some regions. Therefore I think this article should be renamed. - Eyeresist 05:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The title "Zentropa" was used for the American and Australian release, but not for the British or other international markets. Also, the title as it appears onscreen is "Europa"; it's not changed onscreen to "Zentropa" in any version. The recent DVD re-release of this film in all markets now bears the title "Europa" on all packaging. So I think the entry should be Europa (film).Lontano 13:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I support a move to Europa (film). --Maitch 15:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support. More widely used title, both internationally and in English language countries. Prolog 08:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article has now been moved, and all pages linking to Zentropa have been updated. Thank you. Lontano 05:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two years before Schindler's List?[edit]

Jour_de_fête came out decades before Europa and it was black-and-white with bits of colour as well. Why is Schindler's List even mentioned? JeR (talk) 03:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because Schindler's List is widely and wrongly believed to be the first film to ever use such an effect. It's clearly not a coincidence (as Lars von Trier mentions on his DVD commentary for this film). Spielberg, on the basis of this film, tried to lure LvT to Hollywood. (He failed, since LvT is scared of modes of transport he doesn't personally control and hence can't get overseas.) But... on Spielberg's very next film, he "borrowed" LvT's stylistic device for his own film, and it has become unjustly associated with Spielberg rather than LvT. So that's why that is mentioned here. Lontano (talk) 09:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I believe Jour de fête's hand-coloured inserts were (according to the WP article) only incorporated because the technical colour-process Tati was relying on became unavailable. Though he wanted the entire film to be shown in colour, he couldn't hand-colour every single frame of a feature-length film. In fact, its recent re-release went back to the original colour negative for the whole film... so no more "brief bursts of colour". Lontano (talk) 09:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Europa Europa[edit]

Hello, shouldn't there be a line on the page something like "Not to be confused with" since the title is very similar to Europa Europa? I don't usually do much on wikipedia, but thought it might be a good idea to inform those who do. --78.70.255.43 (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Check the second paragraph of the lead section, it's already there. Smetanahue (talk) 18:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cameo[edit]

There is also the cameo appeareance of LvT as "Jew". Shouldn't we include this info? Nodurosul (talk) 18:34, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]