Talk:Faten Hamama

Faten Hamama was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 14, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
January 11, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
January 14, 2010	Good article reassessment	Delisted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 14, 2006. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the Egyptian actress Faten Hamama* has received more than forty awards and starred in almost one hundred films?*
A news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on January 20, 2015.
Current status: Delisted good article

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Khul' Law[edit]

The article mentions that Khul' law was passed in Egypt immediately after 'I want a solution' movie was released. However, this is not completely correct. The khul' law was passed in Egypt in the late 1990s/Early 2000s as far as I remember, which is long after the movie was released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.131.86.194 (talk) 09:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Passed GA[edit]

The article looks very good; thanks for the diligent research! About the only suggestion I have for further improvement is that it'd be nice if there were a reference in the first paragraph of the "Accomplishments in Egyptian cinema" section, to back up the claim about what Egyptian cinema used to be like and how it was transformed during her acting career. Otherwise, looks very close to FA status to my eyes. --Delirium 23:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Delirium! I struggled for the research on this one; I literally used up every reliable online source. Thanks to the actress's official website administrator and the Egyptian Culture Fund group, I was able to get my hands on a book about the life of Faten Hamama, so the article has a big expansion coming and a whole lot of referencing to do. Thanks again. ← ANAS ^Talk? 10:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Faten Wajhqamar.jpg[edit]

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Age error[edit]

"Hamama made her screen debut in 1939, when she was only nine years old." Is mathmatically impossible if her birth year (1931) is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.139.67.70 (talk) 11:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Faten Hamama/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, listed below. I will check back in seven days. If these issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far.

At first glance this looked like an acceptable GA; it is well referenced and reasonably well written. After closer scrutiny though, it seems clear that it has some serious issues that have to be addressed before it can keep its status.

The most serious issue, in my eyes, is with the "Accomplishments in Egyptian cinema" section. The first paragraph makes several strong assertions, but there are no references to back it up. This continues into the second paragraph as well. Without references this appears as WP:OR and potentially WP:POV, no matter how well researched it is.
A couple of the assertions are repeated twice in the article; this goes for Omar Sharif and the kiss, as well as the Khul' story. In the latter case, a direct connection also needs to be made between the actress's role and the new legislation. If this connection can not be shown to have been made by some external, reliable source, then the assertion appears as novel synthesis.
Awards and honors - this section should go, or be edited down, preferably to a prose section. Since the fork already exists, there is no need for this long list in the article.
There is far too much peacock terms and flowery prose than what is acceptable in an encyclopaedic article. Examples are: "realized the young actress's talent", "was in search of her real identity", "their romantic relationship clearly evident on screen", "they fell in love", "Having learned from experience".

If anyone is interested in addressing these issues, please contact me, and I'll give a more thorough review. Lampman (talk) 01:58, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since no significant improvements have been made to the article over the last week, I will now delist it. Lampman (talk) 06:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Silly wording[edit]

In the death and funeral section: "Faten Hamama died on January 17, 2015, aged 83 due to health problems. Her son Tarek Sharif did not state the exact cause of death."

Then in the next section: "They resided in Cairo until her death on 17 January 2015 following a short illness"

That's a needlessly verbose and clumsy way of telling that we know almost nothing about the cause of death, other that it was natural. 89.134.220.47 (talk) 15:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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