Talk:Firestorm (character)

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Why is there a Firstorm (I) and a Firestorm (III), but no Firestorm (II)? Let's separate series' volumes from characters... there should just be two of them. Dyslexic agnostic 19:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • In fact there are a lot of Firestorm... I dunno what was the first classification, but we can have a physical approach to Firestorm, then we must keep this classification, because:

- Firestorm (I) is "classical" Firestorm, the composite Hero formed by Ronald Raymond and Martin Stein, later evolved in the composite Raymond/Arkadin/Stein, later evolved in the autonomous form of Ronald Raymond

- Firestorm (II) is the "elemental" Firestorm, the merger of the Svarozich, the Russian Clone, Raymond and Arkadin, then Svarozich plus Stein, actually a ball of sentient fire hanging in cosmo

- Firestorm (III) is the "actual" Firestorm, Jason Rusch

We can also enlarge this suddivision. Then we would have:

- Firestorm (I): The Ronald Raymond first merger with Professor Stein

- Firestorm (II): The merger between Raymond, Arkadin and the mind template of Stein

- Firestorm (III): The first elemental Firestorm, Svarozich plus Raymond plus Arkadin

- Firestorm (IV): The last elemental Firestorm, the Stein-Firestorm, later evolved into a ball of sentient fire

- Firestorm (V): The last form of Ronald Raymond, no more dependent by Martin Stein to access his powers

- Firestorm (VI): Jason Rusch


But I think is more rational to keep the actual classification

Speaking of series, we can say that Firestorm I and II had apparead in Firestorm, the first series, in Fury of Firestorm and Firestorm, The Nuclear Man, and Firestorm III is the lead character of Firestorm v2 (2005) DrTofu83 19:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Firestorm in Unlimited[edit]

It kinda stinks that Firestorm won't be appearing in Justice League Unlimited because it might be confusing to readers. --UltimatePyro 06:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is the official explanation, as such I think we must keep it. I think we must add his appearence in the JLU comic series, from the same DC. In the Christmas Special (JLU #16) the Firestorm who appeared was sill Firestorm I, the Ronnie Raymond Firestorm, but the appaereance of the real Power Girl, and not his counterpart Galatea made his cammeo clashing with the animated continuity.

DrTofu83 13:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Rusch page is a mess. Powers needs its own entry, to to be edited into something coherant.

Jason Rusch[edit]

There's no reason in having Rusch's info in this SHB as he has his own article and, threfore, his own SHB. —Lesfer (talk/@) 17:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, info on Rusch should be added in his own article, not in here. Otherwise what's the point in having a Rusch's article? —Lesfer (talk/@) 14:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pozhar[edit]

I'm surprised that no one has built a Pozhar section or page yet. --Basique 12:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Firestorm (Ronald Raymond)[edit]

There's actually enough information on that page to split off a separate section for the Ronald Raymond Firestorm. --Xero (talk) 23:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I took the initiative. --Xero (talk) 00:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Title infoboxes[edit]

I know that there is a way to do multiple volumes of a title that's way more compact, but I will have to hunt down the correct infobox. --Xero (talk) 01:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger from Firestorm (Ronald Raymond) and Firestorm (Jason Rusch)[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge Firestorm (Ronald Raymond) and Firestorm (Jason Rusch) to this article. As stated in H:M, there was silence for at least two weeks, so the proposed merge proceeds. Jfgslo (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of the fictional alter egos of Firestorm, Ronald Raymond and Jason Rusch, meets the general notability guideline without their association to Firestorm. Their articles are referenced exclusively with primary sources or non-independent of the subject sources, so neither of them should have been split from the main Firestorm article per WP:AVOIDSPLIT. More importantly, in comics they currently are one and the same, so it is meaningless to have a separate article for each of them, particularly when said articles are plot-only descriptions and redundant content forks of Firestorm. Jfgslo (talk) 04:08, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Silence has been broken[edit]

I can tell there was a silent consensus on to merge the two Firestorms but I respectfully disagree that the characters wouldn't be notable by themselves. So I will bring them back. Jhenderson 777 20:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crime Syndicate[edit]

Wasn't there a version in that universe? Deathstorm? Jokem (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]