Talk:Francis French

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Notability Of Award-Winning Author and Hall of Fame Inductee[edit]

I don think this person is notable enough to deserve an article. Besides that the article itself appears to be based largely on original research. Sacred order of Turtles? Why does this make him notable? CromwellH (talk) 23:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Always worth examining: thank you. The fact that they were just inducted into the US Space & Rocket Center's Hall of Fame this week, alongside such notables as rocket pioneer Wernher von Braun and NASA astronaut Dottie Metcalf-Lindenberger, would seem to answer your question (along with the book awards also noted beforehand). The article also does not appear to be based on original research considering the reference links are all provided. I'll add some of this notability information to the main page.
The issue of inline citations on the main page does need to be fixed: perhaps someone with Wiki editing experience could do this. Thank you. SpaceHistory101 (talk) 00:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can do that. The turtle induction by one of the Mercury Seven is a notable honor, but perhaps only to insiders, and could be deleted. The rest of the article suggests to me that this award-winning author is indeed worthy of Wiki inclusion. I have fixed the inline citations as suggested by others. MoseleyWill (talk) 01:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, regardless of the Turtles being known primarily to insiders, it is still a notable inclusion for the simple fact of who (Wally) inducted French. My vote is to retain the Turtle mention, especially as it has a (relatively) decent article itself.Crkey (talk) 04:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding notability, I noticed there was nothing about this subject's appearance on national and global TV shows talking about space subjects, so added that information with reference links. MoseleyWill (talk) 17:57, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have also added two other notable books this author contributed to. MoseleyWill (talk) 04:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added BBC World Service under media. MoseleyWill (talk) 02:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen this historian on TV a lot recently - and his books are national bestsellers - certainly seems notable enough for inclusion for me. VickyBarcelona (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added appearance on the very high-profile NPR show "All Things Considered." MoseleyWill (talk) 22:52, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Self-Editing Flags[edit]

Reverse lokup of 12.16.249.82, one of the editors, shows it is from the San Diego Air Space Museum, where the author is said to be a director. Self editing/creation of biographies id no allowed.EckelH (talk) 12:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the entries you have flagged, they appear to relate to amending only two words - the person's place of residence, and a web site link. I also understand the museum in question is a place with hundreds of employees.

The entries you flag also come a long time after the creation of the page, are one word apiece, appear to be one-offs, and cannot be comprehensively linked to the subject of the page. For these reasons, your "self-editing / creation" statement is on one count false (they did not create the page), on another an exaggeration (they are not "significant contributions"). I would suggest removing the templates. MoseleyWill (talk) 16:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm always glad when someone looks at self-editing possibilities. But in this case, to flag it as "has included significant contributions to this article" is nonsensical. Looking at the edit questions, I concur that it was changing one word - the subject's place of residence from "San Diego" to "Oceanside." There's a simple solution. As their place of residence is not relevant to their notability, I have removed the information. And as the point is now therefore moot, I have removed the incorrect templates. SpaceHistory101 (talk) 22:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for looking into this, SpaceHistory101. VickyBarcelona (talk) 22:49, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A photo of the subject has been changed back to the original for the following reasons: Restored revision 1088827655 by Justlettersandnumbers (talk): Exactly as before, WP:COI/WP:PAID editors are STRONGLY DISCOURAGED from editing the article, but may propose improvements using {{request edit}} on the talk-page . I do not understand the reasoning. I made the edit, I am not a paid editor. I therefore {{request edit}} to put the new photo on the page. Thank you.

Francisjfrench, did you actually read WP:COI, which I linked for you? If not, please do so. It appears from your username that you are closely connected to the subject of our article; if you are not, please immediately request a change of username. I'll let someone else answer your request. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Francisjfrench (talk) 15:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done I think the current image is better, as the person is easier to see. I would, however, be in favour of changing it to a different portrait if his face is clearly visible. Z1720 (talk) 18:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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