Talk:Funhouse Tour

Is this a press release? It's not something I expected to find in an encyclopaedia 86.129.115.59 (talk) 15:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On references[edit]

It is becoming quite hilarious to see people removing references claiming they're "vandalism", so I should probably explain why we need them before it gets to the hilarious stage of someone threatening blocks...

An early version of this page was wildly inaccurate, and cited several events that, it transpired, never existed. I removed it after a complaint, and in order to prevent more inaccurate dates creeping in, arranged the table such that each date had an inline citation to a specific reliable source, generally a promoter or a press release confirming the show existed.

If we could link to a single reliable source for the whole table now, that'd be great, and there'd be no need to insist on inline referencing. But such a list doesn't seem to exist. The original list was generally cited - it came from a forum post, which itself had been apparently drawn from a list on a website that was no longer available. Right now, there only seems to be one proposed list for all the dates, which is this one; the problem is, that page is prone to change without notice and there's no indication as to where it gets its own information from, which from an overall perspective doesn't make it much better than the forum post - if material is added solely on the basis of that, then in order to confirm it's accurate we need to look at other pages, and if we're using those to confirm details it makes far more sense to cite them instead...

In short, removing these references makes the article less verifiable, which is really not a good thing. Why insist on their removal? Shimgray | talk | 19:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has been explained to you by three different editors as to why your edits are becoming quickly reverted. Regardless of your personal opinion (because that's what you are expressing above), this project is a collaborative effort and by ignoring this, you are violating neutrality. I believe both User:Alkclark and User:64.140.0.3 explained this to you perfectly on your talk page. I have looked at every edit made to this page, since its creation, and I have not seen any "false dates" that have been reported, besides the Paris date, so you're justification is invalid and is mainly superstition at this point. Your concern is both understandable and admirable, however, I agree with User:64.140.0.3's statement on your talk page. KM*hearts*MC (talk) 12:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding sources is a good thing. At a quick glance to page history I do not see how adding sources causes a problem with NPOV. To me, that statement seems ridiculous, can you explain it? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 17:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two different editors explained this perfectly, there is no problem with sources but excessive sources is a bit of out of hand. Its like have 10 different sources to verify Pink's age. Additionally, I would hardly call Pollstar an unreliable source. Before the internet was around, Pollstar was the "go-to" place for any and all concert information during the late 70's, 80's and 90's and is still popular today as they work directly with promoters such as AEG and LN versus with venues as Ticketmaster, Ticketek and those alike do. Maybe you both should do your research before you come off foolishly. KM*hearts*MC (talk) 10:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The end-list of sources would, I said above, be an excellent solution, except that most of it falls back on the pollstar page, which doesn't give any sources for the information, or any way of checking the details... it appears to be a textbook example of an unreliable source. Why is it better than links to more reliable sources?

Regarding individual footnotes, I would love to hear a clear and sensible explanation for why using inline citations to specific sources are bad, which neither you or the others have provided - I have been told it's a neutrality problem, which is frankly bizzare (neutrality is about content not about which footnotes go where), and I have been told it's a violation of the Manual of Style, which can only be some kind of misunderstanding. I honestly don't know how to explain this any other way beyond: references to reliable sources are good; vague references to unreliable sources are not good. Shimgray | talk | 17:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article target of a sockpuppet operation[edit]

FYI, this article was subjected to sockpuppet editing for the last several months. Alkclark and Dancefloor royalty and KM*hearts*MC and 64.140.0.3 are all the same person, operating in conjunction. See Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Alkclark and User talk:Tiptoety#Sockpuppetry case concerning Alkclark. It's also quite evident in the talk discussion above. Any changes made to this article due to the bogus apparent consensus of the socks or due to edit war bullying by the socks, can be reversed. Also be on the lookout for new editors popping up with a similar agenda or style. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add to that Jj wiki1, Lyonhunter, and a return of 64.140.0.3; see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alkclark/Archive. Wasted Time R (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Setlist[edit]

I have looked at a few different websites with the Funhouse Tour setlist on them, and they are all the same, however, the one being shown on wikipedia is completly different, with songs been moved around and songs missing! Could somebody please get this sorted asap! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.82.87 (talk) 12:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On Friday I put here the dates of 7 new concerts: Extra date for Belfast and Zurich (October/December), the new date for Geneva that has been postponed, Concerts in Denmark, Norway & Sweden, the dates for concerts in December in Austria (Linz and Vienna), which all can be found in Pink's officials Websites and in the sites where the tickets are being sold, but somebody that doesn't visit these websites, took off that dates and changed the official Set List, that now it's totally wrong!

Please provide references for the act titles in the setlist or this will be reverted back to a simple list. Mrincredible (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have removed the act titles in the setlist due to a lack of reply to the previous discussion message and lack of references, please do not revert back without sources. Mrincredible (talk) 05:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citations[edit]

"It has become the 8th highest grossing, and 8th most successful tour worldwide" This needs to be qualified. Highest grossing and most successful according to whom? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.9.176 (talk) 04:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to PollStar. ^[1] Iggy Ax (talk) 14:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.pollstar.com/

Tour dates[edit]

There is no confirmed 2nd leg in the USA, so please stop adding this. The dates for Germany that are being added as 'Europe Leg 3' are already on the Pink Funhouse Summer Carnival Tour, so please do not add them to the Funhouse Tour page. They are 2 completely different tours. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.95.59 (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I AM REALLY REALLY PISSED OFF AT THOSE PPL WHO KEPT REMOVING THE TOUR GROSS THAT I ADDED FOR MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, TORONTO, FAIRFAX & PHILLY . I TOOK PAINS ADDING THE TOTAL AND THE % AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE. THIS WAS TAKEN FROM BILLBOARD BOXSCORE LAST WEEK. DON'T U RESEARCH BEFORE REMOVING WHATEVER YOU WANT?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.160.177.142 (talk) 18:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia[edit]

The trivia statistics are incorrect it does not factor people who went to multiple shows or corperate tickets that were not used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.168.21 (talk) 05:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belfast[edit]

Could users PLEASE remember and respect that Belfast is part of the United Kingdom and NOT Ireland. The United Kingdom is the sovereign country so should therefore be written instead of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, also. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderb101 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funhouse Summer Carnival[edit]

Please could someone divide the "Funhouse Tour" from the "Funhouse Summer Carnival Tour". Both supported P!nk's album "Funhouse", but they were 2 different tours. :) 212.17.68.131 (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2011 (UTC) Sorry, my English isn't that good! :) 212.17.68.131 (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Funhouse Summer Carnival[edit]

Please could someone divide the "Funhouse Tour" from the "Funhouse Summer Carnival Tour". Both supported P!nk's album "Funhouse", but they were 2 different tours.:) P.S.: Sorry, my Englsh isn't that good. :) 212.17.68.131 (talk) 15:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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