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AfD notice[edit]

This article was recommended for deletion February 1, 2006. The consensus was that the article should remain with a proper name: G-man_(slang) rather than G-Men(Slang), per the naming conventions. A record of the discussion can be reviewed here. Tom e r ^talk 06:21, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To be precise, that AfD was about G-Men(Slang), and the term "proper name" was never used in the discussion. —BarrelProof (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

cleanup/Inappropriate content?[edit]

I know nothing about HalfLife, and so I don't know for sure whether or not the "[Response to "QUOTE: Unless they are that detailed..."] Yes, they are." thing is some inappropriate comment on something written earlier in the article or something that refers to an actual part of the game. Tom e r ^talk 06:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the link to the Half-Life character; it properly belongs on the G-Man dab page, in my opinion. --Muchness 15:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reasons for restoring earlier edits[edit]

This is a response to Pfistermeister, who is apparently trying to teach me to read and write. I won't hold my breath for the civility policy to be followed, since Pfistermeister has shown little interest in it in the past, judging by his or her talk page. The following are my reasons for restoring my edits (in some cases slightly reworded to, hopefully, improve clarity):

Local police forces are not independent agencies but themselves a constituent part of government (or “the state” to be even more precise). The relevant distinction is federal vs. local, not direct vs. indirect.
As per Wikipedia’s Manual of Style, acronyms should be properly introduced if they are to be used, as in: the United States (US).
“actually surrendered” is superfluous as a modifier in the sentence: “It is now known that George Kelly actually surrendered with the words "I give up, ya got me!", and that the "G-Men" phrase was made up by J. Edgar Hoover's public relations agents.”
“It has been asserted” is a weasel phrase, again bad form according to Wikipedia guidelines.
The detail that “G Men” is a “Hollywood film” rather than just “a film” adds absolutely nothing to the subject of this article because it is completely irrelevant to this subject.

Perhaps your future energy would be more constructively spent on expanding this from a stub to an article instead of making dubious edits to the contributions of others. Bobanny 18:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, god: yet another wiki-egotist out of his depth. Look, people: if you want this fool to ruin an article that was an idiotic and misleading mess before I fixed it, feel free to leave his cretinous alterations in place. But I do ask that someone kindly takes the trouble to explain to him why the following sentence is not only illiterate, but also fails to mean what he thinks it means:

"The word "Government" is short for the United States Federal Government, as opposed to state or local government police agencies."

Thanks.

Pfistermeister 19:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I stand corrected. Oh, where would Wikipedia be without you, Shitmeister. BTW, people can be illiterate, not sentences. Maybe your arrogance wouldn't be so pathetic if you didn't make mistakes equally or more stupid than those of the lesser beings you criticize.Bobanny

Dating[edit]

"The earliest cite in OED for the American usage (as opposed to the Irish, see below) is 1930 from a book on Al Capone by FD Pasley."

Merriam-Webster dates it to 1928. --Gwern (contribs) 08:17 25 August 2010 (GMT)

New York Giants?[edit]

The New York Giants of the NFL are also sometimes referred to as "The G-Men". Is it possible this might also get a mention here? Admittedly it's not their main unofficial nickname, but it is used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.184.11 (talk) 16:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about a cited source for that? —BarrelProof (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

J-Man?[edit]

A character in the play You Can't Take It with You refers to G-Men as J-Men, as in Department of Justice (the line is on page 61 of the script for those who have access to one). Does anyone know if this was a common term in the 1930s, or was this just supposed to be a quirk of the character? Incidentally, "J-Man" on WP redirects to Joker (comics). Mapsax (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Hollywood movies, I think it's always "G-man" / "G-men", never "J-men". —BarrelProof (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 September 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 14:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G-man (slang) → G-man – I only see one topic that is a plausible meaning with this term in lowercase (e.g., Friendly fire and Bird box and Red meat do not lead to dab pages). Unlike some other recent RMs, this is about whether the lowercase version should lead to a dab page, not about what to do with the uppercase form. —BarrelProof (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Clear primary topic for the lower-case term. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.